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CA: Too much power
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| 10/24/05
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Posted on 10/24/2005 9:12:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Please remember the Governor is responsible for proposing the state budget in the first place. he or she already has significant powers available in the form of proposing and making cuts thru the use of veto authority.
I highly encourage California voters to read the information provided to you in the voter guides.
The political ads are just that, ads, and provide little insight into the fine print of the initiatives.
To: NormsRevenge
it would allow the governor to cut virtually any spending he wanted if the Legislature failed to agree on ways to address revenue shortfallsThat's the heart of the matter. Sacramento spends before all else.
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:21:19 AM PDT
by
GVnana
To: GVgirl
Just give half of California to Mexico and that will solve the budget problem. Preferably San Francisco.
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:25:37 AM PDT
by
EQAndyBuzz
(Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
To: GVgirl
Did the legislature force the latest Governor to submit 2 years worth of budgets, each containing an increase of ~10% of the previous year's submission?
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:28:09 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I would love to present a bill to Mexico for services to their citizens in the billions a year that they costs us.
Mexico should be give us billions a year in oil as payment.
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:29:48 AM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: A CA Guy
Those currently running the legislature would like nothing more than to force series of monster tax increases on the state, but need a major financial crisis to blame in order to do so.
Prop. 76 restructures power in CA to prevent this. It is modest proposal to solve a huge problem.
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:39:00 AM PDT
by
Wiseghy
(Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
To: NormsRevenge
California already has one of the strongest governorships in the nation, primarily because the state's executive can veto or reduce almost any spending item including the state budget sent to him by the Legislature. Hmmmmm....so it's bad to give the governor power to reduce spending? I'm trying to understand why that's bad.
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:40:28 AM PDT
by
TheDon
(The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
To: TheDon
Uhhh, he already has the power to do so...
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:41:09 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
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To: Wiseghy
calcowgirl said one of these propositions gave Arnold the abiltiy to borrow more money, was 76 the one that does that?
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:43:31 AM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: NormsRevenge
Hmmmmm....so it's bad to give the governor
more power to reduce spending? I'm trying to understand why that's bad.
Thanks for the heads up!
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:45:37 AM PDT
by
TheDon
(The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
To: TheDon
California already has one of the strongest governorships in the nation, primarily because the state's executive can veto or reduce almost any spending item including the state budget sent to him by the Legislature. Doesn't every governor (and president) have veto power with some sort of supermajority required to over-ride it? The Los Angeles Hyperventilator (Times) is at at again...
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:46:17 AM PDT
by
Zhangliqun
(Hating Bush does not count as a strategy for defeating Islamic terrorism.)
To: NormsRevenge
No. But have you seen the
legislature recommend spending cuts?
In a perfect world, I wish these propositions weren't necessary, and I don't ordinarily vote in favor of such things. But the proposition does include the provision for legislative action, and while we have mandated budget provisions we need a check against unreasonable spending.
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:47:16 AM PDT
by
GVnana
To: GVgirl
At least ya gave me a Yes or a No.
I have seen conservative Republicans recommend them, the few there are sadly, so don't broad brush your own team, Thanks.
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:52:14 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Rule of thumb: If the LA Times is going one way, I'm going the opposite.
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:54:04 AM PDT
by
fish hawk
(I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
To: fish hawk
Sorry to hear that.
Closed minds are the refuge of ill-informed voters, imo, and part of why we are in the mess we are in because so mnay vote that way.
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posted on
10/24/2005 9:57:10 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Well .. it's too late - I have already voted!!
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posted on
10/24/2005 10:04:29 AM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
To: TheDon
If you look at past performance and the powers he has already failed to wield, and he in fact borrowed 15 billion more, why feel confident more power will be the magic elixir?
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posted on
10/24/2005 10:06:55 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
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To: Wiseghy
imo, It is just another gimmick in the finest tradition of what Californians have seen used the last few years to advance social programs spending and a socialist agenda.
It is anything but close to modest.
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posted on
10/24/2005 10:08:29 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Too much power in the governor? It's the legislature that got them into this mess. They seem to be pretty clueless.
To: NormsRevenge
it would allow the governor to cut virtually any spending he wanted if the Legislature failed to agree on ways to address revenue shortfalls. The measure does not provide any check or balance on this action. What! If the legislature doesn't do its job, the governor is allowed to take the reins. If the legislature wants to "check" the governor, it needs to do its job.
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posted on
10/24/2005 10:11:20 AM PDT
by
Smedley
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