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1 posted on 10/22/2005 7:16:37 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Given that we have 2 distinct nations here in America just whose "national" security has been breached?


2 posted on 10/22/2005 7:25:00 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: churchillbuff

I think Larry O'D is having a flashback to "Scarborough and Company".


3 posted on 10/22/2005 7:25:09 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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""All the judges who have seen the prosecutor’s secret evidence firmly believe he is pursuing a very serious crime, and they have done everything they can to help him get an indictment. ""

So does that leave out perjury?
4 posted on 10/22/2005 7:25:55 PM PDT by blogblogginaway (<a HREF="http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051019/OPINION04/51">This guy claim</a>)
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To: churchillbuff
I wonder if information given the Bush Administration by Porter Goss might have been turned over to Fitzgerald. Might Fitzgerald have developed felonious activity at Langley. Might it have nothing to do with malfeasance of Rove/Libby. When I consider the trivial nature of what has been alledged of Rove/Libby compared to what seems to be a real possibility of CIA felony questions it seems that allegations against Rove/Libby are minor.

It is said Rove is bright. I believe he is. Why would one so smart fail to remember that what got Clinton impeached was not felatio and infidelity to his wife and family, but lying to a grand jury. His memory would remind him. His lawyer would remind him. George Bush demanded it of him. Why, then, would Rove commit obstruction and perjury? It does not make sense.

One more question....will someone please answer for me......WHY WAS WILSON SENT TO NIGER TO REPRESENT THE USA REGARDING WHETHER OR NOT IRAQ WAS BUYING YELLOWCAKE? WHY? WHY? WHY?

5 posted on 10/22/2005 7:31:20 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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In his final paragraph, he says he “might have” let Cooper and Miller off the hook “[w]ere the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national security.” "

So the outing of Plame was harmful to "national security"?
I find it hard to reconcile with the numerous times liberal/socialists have revealed covert names and actually
caused the deaths agents with out suffering consequences.


9 posted on 10/22/2005 7:36:25 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Tatel wrote a 41-page opinion in which he seemed eager to make new law

[sarcasm] Just what we need. [/sarcasm]
Another judge "making law."

11 posted on 10/22/2005 7:38:31 PM PDT by syriacus (Bush hasn't done a bad job, all things (WOT, vagaries of Nature, Lib lies + obstruction) considered)
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The only problem with this is EVERYBODY (even the NY Times) now concedes that no crime was broken by the leaking of Plame's name.

Any indictments, we are told, will be based on the "cover-up" of this non-crime.

But nice try. LOL


13 posted on 10/22/2005 7:39:44 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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You have to remember the filing was dated in February. However, if we are to believe the press reports, Fitz decided to limit the scope of Miller's Testimony. Testimony which could have been regarding the "Holy Land Foundation".

The thing that I am not clear about is why Fitzgerald met with Bennett prior to Miller testimony.


16 posted on 10/22/2005 7:41:04 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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Do the judges get to decide whether to prosecute? Or does Fitzgerald make the decision whether or not to prosecute?


17 posted on 10/22/2005 7:41:55 PM PDT by syriacus (Bush hasn't done a bad job, all things (WOT, vagaries of Nature, Lib lies + obstruction) considered)
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All I can say is that it's certainly another straw in the wind. But the number of players who might be accused of violating secrecy is pretty large at this point.

It would be delightful if Porter Goss, about whom we haven't heard very much recently, weighed in and decided to throw all those leftist CIA leakers to the wolves, but if it happens it will represent a kind of hardball that the Republicans have never played before.


19 posted on 10/22/2005 7:42:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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We all know that at ONE time Plame was 'covert.' That has nothing to do with National security now that would require the portions to be blocked out on the judges ruling. There is more here than is being discussed in the msm. Some has been touched on here. I believe there was an attempt by Plame/Wilson to subvert the interests of the United States by having Plame get Wilson to go to Niger, with the intention of trying to discredit the Administration's forign policy in prosecution of the War on Terror, and I think in a treasonous way. It is now well known that the Wilsons have lib dimo connections, and these connections exisited before wilson rode off to Africa. What dim libs had knowledge of Plame's attempt to get Wilson on this mission, and did anyone conspire with Wilson/Plame to try to get Plame to seek her husband for this mission with the purpose of compromising the security of the US for political results that Plame/Wilson and lib dims wanted


31 posted on 10/22/2005 7:50:19 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Dan Rather - guilty until proved innocent)
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The document actually states

...the gravity of the suspected crime...

There was no reported crime, only a suspected one.

Was your choice of word a slip or intentional, to increase the alarm of the post? The SP is investigating to see if there was a crime, right? Just curious.

105 posted on 10/23/2005 10:19:03 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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