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So, there you go guys. Sounds like a movie I want to see. And it looks like Debbie totally misrepresented this movie.
1 posted on 10/15/2005 6:10:39 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

Great job in establishing a dialogue with Cuban - very interesting!

Aside from the inherent interest of what he had to say, I have to admit I found myself thinking: "this guy makes all sorts of terrible spelling and syntax errors, and I write almost perfectly. Yet he's a billionaire and I'm surely not. Goes to show you what's important and what's not when it comes to success!"


2 posted on 10/15/2005 6:22:18 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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It does look like (at the very least) she missed the point--if Cuban has correctly represented this. He's right, you know, about the terrorists walking among us. No one suspected a thing when the 19 AQ terrorists were preparing to fly planes into our buildings. Everyone thought they were just nice foreign boys.


3 posted on 10/15/2005 6:24:02 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Hildy

Hildy, I don't know if Debbie "totally misrepresented this movie" because I have not seen it. I have seen Debbie push too hard on something that her heart is in, but I would NOT trust Mark Cubin. I can't recall ever seeing Debbie totally misrepresent anything she wrote about. I have seen a lot of people attack her because they don't like what she says because they have an agenda and she is exposing it.


7 posted on 10/15/2005 6:36:42 PM PDT by penowa
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Thank you for posting this...coming from the D/FW area, I see/hear a lot from and about Mark....but, this is the first long e-mail I have read...

And, the first I have read about this subject. I knew about his charity for our troops, because there are lots of fundraisers...I have been very impressed by what Mark has done for not only the troops, but just about anyone that he finds that needs help...he is a very generous guy!

I find his description of the movie very intriguing...and I will WANT to see it...but, I have to say, that the subject matter terrifies me.

Ever since Beslan, I have feared a repeat in a school in the USA...and I know that the terrorists COULD be people that are seen at the schools regularly....sigh


9 posted on 10/15/2005 6:37:30 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Hildy

Interesting thanks. I'm still not seeing the movie but I respect Cuban for the dialogue.


11 posted on 10/15/2005 6:41:59 PM PDT by Tribune7
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For what it's worth, I saw Mark Cuban on John McEnroe's short-lived show on CNBC last year and he said he was voting for Ralph Nader.


14 posted on 10/15/2005 6:46:04 PM PDT by wallace144
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Cuban's Fallen Patriot fund has donated over 1.1 million dollars to familiy members of those killed or injured in Iraq.

I wonder how much Debbie Schlussel's fund has donated.


16 posted on 10/15/2005 6:49:34 PM PDT by va4me ("Government isn't the solution to the problem, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Hildy
Thanks pursuing and for posting this. As I mentioned, I do plan on seeing it this week, and will mention what I think about it.

Schlussel does have one good point about the Hassan character that I would be very interested in hearing Cuban's comments on, and that is the way he was "made".

She is correct in pointing out that the true terrorist are not produced by the USA, as the movie appears to show, but by a different means. A means of manipulation through religion and class envy.

If he wrote it, then why did he decide to create the character in the way he did? For it does appear disingenuous...

21 posted on 10/15/2005 7:15:43 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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I saw the movie last week and it was a good movie and certainly
did not support terrorism as some nitwit said in the press.
29 posted on 10/15/2005 8:17:21 PM PDT by Edmund Dante
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Hildy, "you rock"! What little I knew about Mark Cuban made me think he was an interesting guy who indeed was independent-minded, and not one to easily fall into doctrinaire thinking of any kind. I have heard of THE WAR WITHIN but at this point know little about it. His lengthy response to you did in fact illuminate it for me, and makes me want to see it also. The maturity shown in the way he answered you indicates that he is a mensch, and your directness
in taking him to task (even though, as you acknowledged, you may have jumped the gun) raises the level of this forum several degrees: THIS is what Free Republic is supposed to be about and SHOULD be about.DIALOGUE!
KUDOS!


30 posted on 10/15/2005 8:18:46 PM PDT by willyboyishere ("When the superficial wearies me, it wearies me so much that I need an abyss in order to rest".....)
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It sure seems as if people misjudged MarK Cuban badly.

I went to the website he mentioned:

http://www.fallenpatriotfund.org/

"The Fallen Patriot Fund of the Mark Cuban Foundation was established to help families of the US military personnel who were killed or seriously injured during Operation Iraqi Freedom.


33 posted on 10/15/2005 8:32:01 PM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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Thanks for taking the time for doing this and for posting it. And a thanks to Cuban for responding to your questions.


34 posted on 10/15/2005 8:33:59 PM PDT by PAR35
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MARK CUBAN TO DONATE $1 MILLION TO FALLEN SOLDIERS

http://www.fallenpatriotfund.org/4_16_03.html


The Mark Cuban Foundation has announced the formation of the Fallen Patriot Fund, established to help families of U.S. military personnel who were killed or seriously injured during Operation Iraqi Freedom. The Fallen Patriot Fund will be matched dollar for dollar from the general funds of the Mark Cuban Foundation, up to $1 million.

“Now is a good time to take steps to support our troops,” said Mark Cuban, President and Chairman, HDNet and Owner, Dallas Mavericks. “I am very excited to be working with Bank of America to accept donations to the Fallen Patriot Fund to provide support to the spouses and children of our service people who have sacrificed themselves in service of our country during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In support of the Fallen Patriot Fund, I will be matching up to $1 million in total contributions to the fund. I encourage everyone to support our fallen heroes and find their closest Bank of America banking center and truly show their support.”


36 posted on 10/15/2005 8:34:42 PM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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Thanks Hildy

Just wanted to add my two cents.

I know Mark Cuban. Not well, but have interviewed and corresponded with him over the years.The radio station where I was working at the time was the first station to stream via Mark's broadcast.com.

Mark Cuban is a great guy. I don't care if he was a pauper. He'd give you the shirt off his back. He just likes to live life to the fullest. He is always involved in new projects. He is a passionate guy. He would never create anything building up terrorists. Bizarre. My impression is politically Cuban is his own guy. Involved, but not ideological. I really like Mark Cuban. Period.

37 posted on 10/15/2005 8:35:15 PM PDT by davidtalker (David Gold - goldtalk.com)
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If the film uses an ahistorical dramatic device of personal torture at American hands to explain the main character's descent in terrorism, then it most certainly does intend to elicit the audience's sympathy for the terrorist. Cuban does not address this crucial point in his response, so clearly he's just blowing smoke and wrapping himself in the flag. For Mark Cuban, patriotism really is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Schlussel wins.

40 posted on 10/15/2005 11:05:07 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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Can we authenticate these messages? Do we know he wrote them? Would an educated man write "cowardness" for cowardice, or "should" for showed?


44 posted on 10/15/2005 11:11:40 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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Thanks for clarifying and I had a feeling Debbie was off base. I don't always agree with Mark Cuban but he is not stupid. He understands where his "bread is buttered." Dallas is a very conservative town and he could not afford to make a pro-terrorist or pro-Islam movie.


50 posted on 10/16/2005 6:45:30 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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Good for you!

I generally find Debbie to be spot on, and Mark Cuban is a jackass, so I'd have to see the film to know for sure.

58 posted on 10/16/2005 3:12:13 PM PDT by veronica ("clowns clones clowns/ it's raining clowns/snarling FR obsessed clones/ claws bared clowns"...)
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