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Nazi March Canceled When Police Disperse Rock-throwing Protesters (ongoing looting)
nbc24.com ^ | 10/15/2005 | N/A

Posted on 10/15/2005 10:30:55 AM PDT by sageb1

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To: popdonnelly
The rioters rioted to intimidate.

And you wrote:

Nah, rioting is a form of intimidation.

One guy says above, that they riot to intimidate.

You come along and say rioting is a form of intimidation. LOL!

I guess while they are gang stomping you into the ground, you'll be somewhat intimidated.

With an excuse, they'd burn your house to the ground, kill your dog and take your wallet. They could care less if you're impressed or intimidate. They riot for any reason, any excuse will do. As long as they can burn, loot, get your stuff for free, raise hell and create mayhem. Their motive is to kick your ass, take your stuff. You being intimidated or impressed is entirely up to you.

1,001 posted on 10/17/2005 8:46:39 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: sageb1

Funny. Nazis rally peacefully and a predominantly black mob destroys it's own town and loots it.


1,002 posted on 10/17/2005 9:36:45 AM PDT by jw777
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To: freema
Perhaps you thought I was fabricating an opinion.

You were either fabricating it, or you just got it wrong.

Lets examine what *you* wrote in #958 below. Notice what is now underlined?

There are some reports that the other groups with the Nazis were handing eggs to agitated blacks.

958 posted on 10/16/2005 11:35:20 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Mom) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 948 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

Here is the link you provided below.

It's not clear why the National Socialist Movement chose north Toledo for its march, said Ford, himself African-American. "It is not a neighborhood where you have a lot of friction in the first place," he said.

The NSM promotes itself as America's Nazi Party and said that it was protesting black gangs, which it claimed were harassing white residents. The group said it had received support from Toledo's white citizens and community activists.

A spokesman for the group, Bill White, blamed the riot on Toledo police, saying the police intentionally changed the group's march route to make it collide with a counter-demonstration.

About 20 members from both the International Socialists Organization and One People's Project showed up, and some handed eggs to African-American residents to throw at the Nazi marchers, White said.

International Socialists Organization and One People's Project were NOT with the nazi wannabe group. These two groups are extreme leftist groups that hate the freaking nazi morons.

That is why I said, your post was laughable. You had it wrong or you just fabricated it!

1,003 posted on 10/17/2005 9:42:47 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: M203M4

LOL Good idea.


1,004 posted on 10/17/2005 11:57:20 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: 1035rep
You misquoted me, I said '5'5 but that's not important.

Darned eyesight!

Well, looks like I shouldn't be a cop. Nor an airline pilot for that matter either.
Actually, it's not really my eyesight, but the real problem is that my arms are too short...

1,005 posted on 10/17/2005 12:39:19 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Black Tooth

OMG. I can see where I am confused now.

Nazi = national socialist political party

"It's not clear why the National Socialist Movement chose north Toledo for its march".

I think I've got it. A bunch of socialists (some like eggs, some like swastikas) all met in Toledo to celebrate Oktoberfest with the Poles at wonderful favorite neighborhood bar and a bunch of nasty black folks crashed the party. Some of the socialists wanted scrambled eggs instead of kraut and ribs and before anyone knew what happened, a fight broke out.

I guess I'm just not good at reading between the lines. Thank you for clearing this all up! Of course, if I've not got it right this time, I know I can count on you got set me straight.






1,006 posted on 10/17/2005 2:04:13 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: freema
There are some reports that the other groups with the Nazis were handing eggs to agitated blacks.

958 posted on 10/16/2005 11:35:20 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Mom) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 948 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

Thank you for clearing this all up!

My pleasure. Any time!

1,007 posted on 10/17/2005 2:10:25 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: freema; Black Tooth
There are some reports that the other groups with the Nazis were handing eggs to agitated blacks.

freema:

If you cannot tell the difference between National Socialists (nazis) and International Socialists Organization/One People's Project (commies), then you will continue to make an ass of yourself in public.

Black Tooth was too kind to you.

1,008 posted on 10/17/2005 2:11:05 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: george wythe
I was trying to be nice.

Some people just can't admit to mistakes. If that's what it was. Her suggesting the International Socialists Organization and One People's Project were with the wannabe nazis, and implying they were working in concert with them was laughable.

1,009 posted on 10/17/2005 2:18:23 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: george wythe

shame on you


1,010 posted on 10/17/2005 2:18:59 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: sageb1

115 arrested so far. Of course, what 'punishment' will they get?


1,011 posted on 10/17/2005 2:26:34 PM PDT by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: Black Tooth; sageb1

Heard on WSPD radio today (primarily a conservative station) that quite a few of the rioters & gang-bangers are rumored to be from Detroit.


1,012 posted on 10/17/2005 3:40:58 PM PDT by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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Despite the various names and affiliations for the groups that were there, there were really only two present. Those that obeyed the law and those that broke it.

I have seen various reports stating that the Nazi demonstration "triggered" the violence, and that the riots erupted "because of anger towards the city" for allowing the demonstration. Just for once I'd like to see someone take responsibility for their own actions and not point the finger at some external cause as the source of their behavior.

We all have the freedom to choose our individual responses to a given situation. If you choose to break the law, then YOU have made that choice, no one has made it for you. Whether you agree with another groups opinion or not is irrelevant. The people that have respect for the laws of this country will ensure they remain with those bounds in their actions. Those that do not will be rightfully labeled as criminals and will continue to lose the respect of the rest of us, and their cause will lose merit as well.
1,013 posted on 10/17/2005 4:25:03 PM PDT by PhxCliff
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To: george wythe; Black Tooth

So do you think they got ribs or kraut or an omlette
all-the-way when it was over? Beer doesn't go very well with omlettes, and I never really heard of omlettes at an Oktoberfest. Those damn socialists, they're so hard to read, one can never really tell what they like most.


1,014 posted on 10/17/2005 4:37:41 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: freema
Those damn socialists, they're so hard to read,

I have a hard time keeping track of what nuts they're friends with on what day. Did you read about Bill White? He's one sick pup and all over the palce politically.

2nd one down.

SPL Center

1,015 posted on 10/17/2005 5:19:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: PhxCliff
Whether you agree with another groups opinion or not is irrelevant.

This had nothing to do with agreement with an opinion. This had everything to do with a nazi group coming in to a town and neighborhood not their own in order to "challenge two local black gangs that have made racial threats against white residents to come out and stop them. "

All that's known for certain is that it started with a white man and his black female neighbor.

1,016 posted on 10/17/2005 5:30:14 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: sofaman
Sorry, there is always a line that cannot and should not be crossed

So whom do you choose to endowe the privilege of deciding what is acceptable and what is not? Jesse Jackson? Louis Farrakahn? Adolph Hitler? Fidel Castro? Joseph Stalin? Pol Pot? Ho Chi Minh? ...the list goes on and on, all you have to do is choose the decider.

Like it or not SOFAMAN, it is either freedom of speech for all or freedom of speech for the chosen few.........I like to think that I'm part of the "ALL" crowd......

1,017 posted on 10/17/2005 5:42:07 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm tired of idiots and don't have enough ammo to shoot them all.......Jeez, I hate that thought!)
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To: The Foolkiller
Heard on WSPD radio today (primarily a conservative station) that quite a few of the rioters & gang-bangers are rumored to be from Detroit.

That wouldn't surprise me at all. This was well publicized before hand and I think it was mostly outsiders and they invited Toledo as witnesses.

I read on another thread a post by an Ohioan that said he read posts in Michigan inviting outsiders to join in.

1,018 posted on 10/17/2005 5:44:25 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Bill White makes for interesting reading. It looks like he has his hands in more than one hate group instigating trouble. I bet he was hard at work for weeks before the march


1,019 posted on 10/17/2005 5:48:57 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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