[Ninian Dryhope]

"Too little, too late."

True, but these are not bad proposals, would not cost too much, and might help a little bit on the margins. My daughter is in her senior year majoring as a chemical engineer, so it is too late for her to benefit, but I think that students who are willing to forgo many of the more pleasant experiences of college in order to put in the time needed to study engineering should have some additional incentives.

[durasell]

So we graduate four or five times the number of mediocre engineers. In China or India mediocre engineers are a dime for two dozen. If we produce "genius engineers" and "genius scientists" who push nano tech and big pharma ahead, that's a different story -- but requiring few people.

The cost differential between American and foreign engineers (like manufacturing) is simply too great.