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Seeing Creation and Evolution in Grand Canyon (quote below is the most significant item)
New York Times ^ | October 6, 2005 | JODI WILGOREN

Posted on 10/06/2005 4:47:48 AM PDT by Nicholas Conradin

GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK, Ariz. - --snip -- The twin rafting trips epitomize the parallel universes often inhabited by Americans with polarized positions. Members of both groups said they had signed up for these charters to be surrounded by like-minded people. Indeed, all the American adults on Mr. Vail's boats voted for President Bush last fall, while all but two on the evolutionists' rafts cast ballots for Senator John Kerry.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: creationism; creationist; crevolist; evolution; grandcanyon
This is more a political point than a comment on evolution/creationism. Sadly, the observatiion of the political polarization probably accurately reflects the general electorate.
1 posted on 10/06/2005 4:47:51 AM PDT by Nicholas Conradin
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To: PatrickHenry

...yawn...


2 posted on 10/06/2005 4:52:09 AM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: Nicholas Conradin

Dang, gotta go to class. Ping for later...


3 posted on 10/06/2005 4:53:56 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: wallcrawlr


4 posted on 10/06/2005 4:54:05 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: King Prout
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976469037.htm



5 posted on 10/06/2005 4:59:15 AM PDT by G.Mason ("The Donner Party faithful" ... deport, Oct 4th 2005 ... They're not just hungry, they're ravenous!)
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To: G.Mason

thanks. trying to find a cheaper way around the problem, though.


6 posted on 10/06/2005 5:00:45 AM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: Nicholas Conradin

What is sad those who claim the Bible dates this earth. The Bible does not state the age of the earth, and speaks to three different heaven/earth ages, and says this earth is very very very old.


7 posted on 10/06/2005 5:06:35 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Nicholas Conradin
Leave it to the NYT to try to falsely portray the evo/creationist debate as a liberal/conservative debate. A simple look at the evolution debates right here on FR demonstrate that there's only a tiny handful (probably trolls) who take an ignorant head in the sand anti-science stand while a simple click on a typical creationist site reveals their radical left wing opinion of Darwin's Influence on Ruthless Laissez Faire Capitalism
8 posted on 10/06/2005 5:07:33 AM PDT by shuckmaster (Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
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To: King Prout
Understandable. ;)



9 posted on 10/06/2005 5:18:01 AM PDT by G.Mason ("The Donner Party faithful" ... deport, Oct 4th 2005 ... They're not just hungry, they're ravenous!)
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To: shuckmaster
... a simple click on a typical creationist site reveals their radical left wing opinion of Darwin's Influence on Ruthless Laissez Faire Capitalism

Well said. The debate tactics of creationists reminds me of the slogan of the Clinton administration: "Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter-accusations."

10 posted on 10/06/2005 6:24:47 AM PDT by PatrickHenry ( I won't respond to a troll, crackpot, half-wit, or incurable ignoramus.)
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To: Junior

Another.


11 posted on 10/06/2005 6:25:29 AM PDT by PatrickHenry ( I won't respond to a troll, crackpot, half-wit, or incurable ignoramus.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Gracias.


12 posted on 10/06/2005 6:34:29 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Just mythoughts

You are correct, it does not date the earth. But where does it say that the earth is "very very very old?"


13 posted on 10/06/2005 7:11:10 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: PatrickHenry

You're selecting the wrong debators, then.


14 posted on 10/06/2005 7:21:28 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: shuckmaster
Leave it to the NYT to try to falsely portray the evo/creationist debate as a liberal/conservative debate.

This struck me as typical NYT "fact" finding. The author is projecting his feelings onto the subject, creating the evidence to reach his desired conclusion.

15 posted on 10/06/2005 8:23:29 AM PDT by Nicholas Conradin (If you are not disquieted by "One nation under God," try "One nation under Allah.")
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To: Nicholas Conradin
Proposed bridge at new visitor center to open next year. A glass bridge overlooking a 3,800 ft drop.


16 posted on 11/13/2005 7:35:11 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Just mythoughts

I know in creation there was not even such a thing as time


17 posted on 09/09/2006 7:36:54 AM PDT by mel
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To: mel
Hmmmm, oh there was 'time' in creation, we in the flesh have not figured out yet how to accurately measure it.
18 posted on 09/09/2006 7:40:05 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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