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JAYNA DAVIS: Report No. 1 - OU SUICIDE BOMBING CASE
phone call with Jayna Davis | 10-5-05 | dfu

Posted on 10/05/2005 4:51:42 PM PDT by doug from upland

JAYNA DAVIS: Report No. 1 - OU SUICIDE BOMBING CASE

As FReepers are probably aware, Jayna Davis, indefatigable reporter and author of THE THIRD TERRORIST, is on the case of the OU suicide bomber. A local FReeper is giving her assistance. Here are some of the highlights of our discussion a short time ago:

1 - she has spoken to the feed store owner, Justin Ellison . . . Joel Hinrichs III exhibited strange behavior while in the feed store trying to buy ammonium nitrate . . . the store owner asked why he wanted it, and Hinrichs turned away and started mumbling to himself

2 - Hinrichs was dressed in a photographer's vest that was stuffed . . . a wire was noticed sticking out of it

3 - a plain clothes officer was in the store at the time and witnessed what happened . . . Jayna is not clear who got it, but someone got the plate number to track the guy

4 - they did a background check and he came out clean . . . Jayna reminds us that he was a "lily white," just like McVeigh and Nichols

5 - Norman PD could not confirm much for Jayna because this has gone up the food chain . . . they did answer a few questions about procedure, however . . . this would have gone to a special ops task force . . . but what about the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF)? . . . Norman, Oklahoma has no budget for an officer or a JTTF office! . . . Jayna was stunned . . . the area around OKC is on the front line . . . Norman was the home of the former chief pilot of Osama bin Laden . . . Moussaoui got his flight training there . . . Atta and Alshehhi visited the Airman Flight School in Norman . . .Minepta's mosque is there . . . the VP recruiter for the overseas Al-Fatah network was in Norman

6 - the police in Norman did their job after the report of the feed store incident . . . they knew it was Hinrichs right away after the bombing - they knew it before DNA tests . . . Jayna wonders if their quick action prevented a major casualty count . . . Jayna wonders if they possible had done a "knock and talk" on him before the event to shake him up

7 - a local reporter who verbally attacked Jayna before is at it again . . . the reporter is kissing up and apologizing to the local Muslim community

8 - a security guard at the stadium would not give Jayna info about whether Hinrichs tried to get in with the backpack at halftime . . . apparently, that may be the time when some of the crowd leaves the stadium and comes back with alchohol - so the guards look for that . . . Jayna thinks that, had he planned it better, there was a possibility that he could have gotten in with the crowd at the beginning of the game

9 - officials are denying that there was something else that did not detonate . . . there are differing stories in the news

10 - how is this for quick action and approval? . . . OU is erecting concrete barriers at the stadium to prevent a truck bombing

11 - Jayna says thanks to all the FReepers . . . YOU GUYS ARE GREAT


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bombing; hinrichs; islam; jaynadavis; normanbombing; normanok; okc; ou; oubombing; thirdterrorist; trop
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To: doug from upland

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61 posted on 10/05/2005 5:35:17 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: doug from upland

Yes, there is power in a Free people and in a FREE press. Here's to the Pajamahedeen.


62 posted on 10/05/2005 5:36:11 PM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: livius

If detonated remotely by cell phone to cell phone, it seems it would be easy to identify the phone Hinrich carried to be detonated and then find out from whom that call was received? No?


63 posted on 10/05/2005 5:36:21 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: doug from upland
News Channel 9 in OKC is reporting that the bomber tried to get into the game TWICE.

(Someone just posted this on the Oklahoma board...I didn't see the broadcast, but thought this should be posted.)

64 posted on 10/05/2005 5:36:30 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: doug from upland

I think he was probably wearing something that he thought looked pretty normal. The guy was not dumb, and would not have come in with a vest that screamed "nutcase suicide bomber." However, he obviously didn't look like a normal farmer or fertilizer customer.

Incidentally, I believe ammonium nitrate is used in manufacturing meth, and this might have been what the clerk was looking for. Here in Florida the places where people manufacture meth can usually be detected at some distance because of the smell, which is supposedly due to the fertilizer component.


65 posted on 10/05/2005 5:37:00 PM PDT by livius
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To: doug from upland

The involvement of his Pakistani roommate is a stone I'd like to see turned over again and again.

For example, does he have any connection whatsoever with the Pakistanis that were arrested, charged and deported and/or awaiting trial up the road here in Lodi, CA.

Connect the dots - follow the cash.


66 posted on 10/05/2005 5:37:11 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: I'm ALL Right!

The guards have obviously been told no more discussions with anyone.


67 posted on 10/05/2005 5:37:25 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: indcons; doug from upland
Thanks for the ping indcons, greatly appreciated.

Doug, thanks very much for posting.

68 posted on 10/05/2005 5:37:41 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: cripplecreek; doug from upland
I'm quite curious about the last 5 or 10 minutes of Hinrichs life. I guess I wonder if police were already on scene when the bomb went off.

I think there was a post on the original thread about a woman seeing two (possibly) M.E.-looking men running from the area right before or after the bomb went off. Could they have been US agents tailing Hinrichs or would it be more likely they were from the other side?

Wonder what kind of mechanism caused the bomb to explode. Was it premature or "just right?" Was it meant to cause mass destruction or was it maybe a warning of what could be done, unless "such and such" is done?
69 posted on 10/05/2005 5:38:38 PM PDT by hummingbird (21st Century Newsreporting - "Don't get me started!")
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To: Texas Songwriter

It seems - again, I don't know anything about this other than what I have read here - that nothing was left of Hinrich above the waist. So I guess his cell phone would have been gone too.


70 posted on 10/05/2005 5:38:38 PM PDT by livius
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To: truthaboveall

Pinging Jayna


71 posted on 10/05/2005 5:38:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: Texas Songwriter

I read (on a blog) that people at the game were unable to use their cell phones for a period of time during the game.


72 posted on 10/05/2005 5:38:52 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: indcons; doug from upland

Good work! It will help to have her involved. The lack of coverage is inexplicable. However, at least we can rest easy that the media is all over the Nick/Jessica breakup and Lindsey Lohan's wreck.


73 posted on 10/05/2005 5:40:34 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: Diver Dave

Don't forget his Paki room mate worked for the OU Athletic Dept!


74 posted on 10/05/2005 5:41:26 PM PDT by Stand W (Confusion to our enemies)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

I can vouch for this. My sister in law was at the game and called me to wave hello. I tried back moments later and could not get a signal. Quite honestly, I don't know if this is unusual.


75 posted on 10/05/2005 5:43:36 PM PDT by Stand W (Confusion to our enemies)
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To: savedbygrace
I don't have any knowledge of how and why his bomb exploded, but if it's possible his handlers set it off, what do you think of this as one possibility? His handlers knew they needed a lily-white, and all of a sudden, he's under suspicion.

I'm with you on this...A white guy with a backpack is a lot less suspicious than a muzlim looking terrorist with a backpack...It's easy to speculate and I can vision the frustration from the A-rabs as well as the white guy...

He tries to get in a number of gates and having failed, he sits down on a bench wondering what to do with all these explosives...

At the same time, the trigger guys are aware of the failure and don't dare leave this bomb un-detonated...So the white guy and the bomb have got to go...

76 posted on 10/05/2005 5:43:57 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: doug from upland; hispanarepublicana; PhiKapMom; Cindy; indcons; backhoe
Updated FR list-o-links with brief descriptions (updated on 10/05/2005 @ 7:45 p.m. CST). This list will be updated as new threads are posted. Cindy/backhoe: can you please add these links to your list of internet links?

Main thread with tons of useful info and breaking news from day one, Oct. 01
Joel jihad identification thread, Oct. 02
Bomb material found thread, Oct. 02
Explosive stash found thread, Oct. 03
Joel Jihad tries to buy Ammonium Nitrate thread, Oct. 04
OK City Channel 9 story thread, Oct. 04
Malkin blog posts thread, Oct. 04
Sources ID TATP thread, Oct. 04
Roomie identified thread, Oct. 05
More on the roomie thread 1, Oct. 05
More on the roomie thread 2, Oct. 05
Boren bio, Oct. 05
DougFromUpland interview with Jayna Davis thread, Oct. 05
77 posted on 10/05/2005 5:44:01 PM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.)
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To: doug from upland

Thank you Doug for getting Jayna involved. I've been meaning to buy her book ever since it came out and never seemed to get around to it. I just ordered it from Amazon and would encourage any other Freepers who haven't read it yet to do the same.


78 posted on 10/05/2005 5:44:41 PM PDT by Lorraine
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To: livius
From what I have read, some of the London bombers apparently thought they were going home after the bombing. And some of the Madrid bombers actually did go home without any problem after they had dropped off and armed their bombs.

Interesting, because not all of the 9/11 hijackers knew the full plan either. Only the leaders of each group, I guess, and maybe one other. But, I remember that the majority of the 9/11 hijackers did not know that they weren't returning either.
79 posted on 10/05/2005 5:45:30 PM PDT by hummingbird (21st Century Newsreporting - "Don't get me started!")
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To: Oorang

You're welcome, Oorang.



FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.


80 posted on 10/05/2005 5:45:56 PM PDT by indcons (The revolution is here!! Long live the pajama revolution!!!)
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