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To: John O
if one twin is molested his brother is highly likely to be molested also

Indeed, the Bailey and Pillard studies did not control for environment. However, their research (J. M. Bailey and R. Pillard, "A Genetic Study of Male Sexual Orientation," Archives of General Psychiatry 48 (1991) 1089-196) compared concordance of homosexuality in monozygotic (identical) twins and dizygotic (fraternal) twins, as well as in adoptive brothers. They found that monozygotic twins have 50% concordance, dizygotic twins have a 25% concordance, while adoptive twins have a concordance no greater than chance. This would be typical of a trait that's 50% genetic in origin (but of course, genetics is not by itself the cause of homosexuality -- but it plays a major role -- if this research is correct).

Homosexuality is a contagious mental disease passed from one molestor to his victim

This is another at best unverified theory for the cause of homosexuality. The problem with this theory is that there are many victims of molestation, yet only some of them turn out gay. I will venture to guess: Fewer molestation victims become gay (by percent) than monozygotic twin brothers of homosexual men turn out gay. At any rate, some homosexuals do seek sex with underage boys, but most do not.

Another theory I read of links homosexuality with childhood sexual experiences with peers. Sounds good in theory -- but it turns out heterosexuals are just as likely to have had childhood sexual experiences with peers.

get educated

Oh, golly -- I know more about this subject than I care to -- it's affected my family, and being scientifically trained, I've read quite a bit about it.

68 posted on 10/04/2005 8:41:27 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: megatherium
The problem with this theory is that there are many victims of molestation, yet only some of them turn out gay. I will venture to guess: Fewer molestation victims become gay (by percent) than monozygotic twin brothers of homosexual men turn out gay.

A. A molestation victim with a sound support network (that is, a good relationship with his father) is far more likely to recover from the mental trauma of the molestation, Just as he is more likely to recover from any other trauma.

The relationship with the father turns out to be the critical factor. (Which also goes a long way towards explaining why sexual perversion seems to be on the upswing.) No fathers = more sexual deviants.

B. There is no such thing as a 'homosexual man' with a monozygotic twin. There are only previously diseased men with twins. The only thing we know about the first twin is that he participates in homosexual activity (That is, is afflicted with SAD). In most cases his twin is raised in the same environment, exposed to the same molestation risk and the same relationship with their father.

At any rate, some homosexuals do seek sex with underage boys, but most do not.

According to "The Gay Report" 74% of active homosexuals report having had sexual relations with minors. It is a recurring theme in 'gay' literature and to this date as far as I know no 'gay' organization has ever repudiated NAMBLA. (Unfortunately the gay report is not available on the web as far as I know. If you can find it please ping me to it)

(Any exposure of children to homosexuality is child abuse)

me->get educated

you->Oh, golly -- I know more about this subject than I care to -- it's affected my family, and being scientifically trained, I've read quite a bit about it.

Obviously not educated enough yet. Read scripter's database and learn the truth. (He posted a few links up thread) We've been tracking the agenda for years and have studied almost every study that's come out. Homosexuality was removed from the DSM as a political ploy. There was not then, nor is there now any scientific reason to call it anything but a mental disease.

BTW. Lots of us here have been affected by this disease. It is in our families and I know of several recovered abuse victims and even a few folks who have been healed of their SAD (Same-sex Attraction Disorder).

69 posted on 10/05/2005 5:21:14 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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