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ADULTERY IS KILLING THE AMERICAN FAMILY
Sierra Times ^ | 9/27/2005 | Nathan Tabor

Posted on 09/27/2005 6:28:45 AM PDT by ElCapusto

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To: E Rocc

You would prefer that we merely continue to subsidize adulterous behavior?


21 posted on 09/27/2005 6:41:03 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: E Rocc

I agree.


22 posted on 09/27/2005 6:44:08 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: ElCapusto; Admin Moderator

Already posted almost a week ago with nearly 400 replies.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489659/posts


23 posted on 09/27/2005 6:45:03 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Skooz

Yes, it used to be that a man who was unfaithful to his wife in this country and left her and his children to be with some young floozy would be socially ostracized. His friends would abandon him, business associates would not trust him, no one would talk to him. Now he and the young slut will be invited to every dinner party and no one will say a censuring word because they don't want to be considered "judgmental." It used to be that a woman who was caught committing adultery would nine times out of ten lose her children to him. She was regarded as little more than a common whore. Now, once again, no one says anything to her because that would be judgmental. When there's no social stigma attached to an action people tend to engage in it more frequently. Let's note the example of aggressive homosexual proselytizing as well.

Nobody's saying (at least, I hope nobody's saying) that adultery should be prosecuted as a crime, the way it once was. But as a people we ought to stop worrying about hurting the adulterers' feelings by speaking out. It's possible that when the children who have been robbed of their homes by adultery grow up they won't be afraid to express their anger more openly, and adultery will become as reviled as it was in the old days.

We can always dream!


24 posted on 09/27/2005 6:52:59 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I'd argue that the internet today has the same level of effect on peoples' perversions as TV did for breaking down traditional discipline.


25 posted on 09/27/2005 6:56:01 AM PDT by opticks
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To: ElCapusto
The Bible defines adultery also as the worship of material things rather than God.
That type of adultery naturally leads to marital adultery.
When God is removed from marriage and society, secular ideas rush in to fill the void.
The results were predicted thousands of years ago.
26 posted on 09/27/2005 7:02:42 AM PDT by The Brush
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To: opticks

That is an astute observation.


27 posted on 09/27/2005 7:04:40 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: stuartcr
Adultery isn't anything new, it's been around practically forever, worldwide.

First of all,forget about "worldwide".Let's talk USA here.

Yes,adultery has been around since Day One,but the Baby Boomers,so many of whom are guided by the basic premise of "if it feels good,do it",have taken it to a whole 'nother level.

Just look at Hollywood.Fifty years ago,the Hollywood types tried to hide their behavior.Today,they're happy to play along with People Magazine pieces entitled "guess the identity of my baby's father".

28 posted on 09/27/2005 7:06:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: ElCapusto
If Jesse Jackson would enter the "ghettos" and convince those sperm donors to marry the mothers of their children, I'd vote for him for president.

Would not that contradict his own lifestyle?

29 posted on 09/27/2005 7:12:23 AM PDT by Tolkien (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Fairview
Nobody's saying (at least, I hope nobody's saying) that adultery should be prosecuted as a crime, the way it once was.

I'm inclined to agree.However,I firmly believe that it should,in every state,be considered to be a serious matter in divorce courts...so serious that the adulterer would lose at least some,if not all,of his/her "marital assets" because of that transgression.

30 posted on 09/27/2005 7:14:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Skooz

Depends on how recently you're referring to....

Historically, a man was almost expected to have a mistress, to 'tup' the house maids, to visit brothels etc. Higher class couples had lovers on the side, with the attitude that descretion was the key. Love and fidelity to second place to status and heirs. Every era, you read of a man's legitimate children and then there would be a listing of his bastards. (I think Robert the Bruce had 13!)

Even in this century, it was more of a 'nudge nudge wink wink' situation if it came out that a man had a girlfriend in the city (where he worked) and a wife in the suburbs. There were lots of 'romantic' comedies based on this premise....the one that pops into my head is "The Guide For the Married Man".

Which dovetails right into the playboys, the players, playas etc that is common now. The attitude being a man can't just be happy with 'one woman' in his life. (This isn't meant to be gender biased, because I know women do the same).

I agree, that in most communities, affairs that came to light were viewed negatively. That infidelity is THE biggest trust killer in a relationship. But it does seem to be very prevalent.


31 posted on 09/27/2005 7:17:16 AM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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To: ElCapusto

"There is a direct correlation between the steady decline of morals and values in America and this more accepting contemporary attitude toward adultery. Part of the reason is because most people have forgotten what a marriage really is."

I don't think "forgotten" is the right term. Marriage has been denigrated and dismissed for the last 40yrs in the media, and in schools to the point where kids have no clue as to what is required by the marriage "vows". Parents can try to tell them but they are actively undercut by those same schools that look upon religious training as an obstacle to be overcome in their brainwashing...er education.

"True marriage is a solemn covenant relationship between a man, a woman and God. It is a hallowed institution that should be revered, cherished, and preserved.
It violates at least two of the Ten Commandments: the clear prohibitions against committing adultery and coveting your neighbor’s spouse."

You can't use religious based arguments! [gay-asp!] How do you expect to be taken seriously?[/sarc]


32 posted on 09/27/2005 7:20:34 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: najida

While it is true that history is full of examples of wealthy and titled men who openly covorted with mistresses in Olde Europe, such was not the case for the overwhelming majority of the populace. For the middle class and poor (who made up about 90% of the population) adultery was a grievous matter.

Indeed, it has always been so in the United States. Until now, of course.


33 posted on 09/27/2005 7:24:47 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: ElCapusto

10,000.00 for marriage licence, 2.00 for divorce decree, that should fix problem...


34 posted on 09/27/2005 7:25:01 AM PDT by ronnied (we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I firmly believe that it should,in every state,be considered to be a serious matter in divorce courts...so serious that the adulterer would lose at least some,if not all,of his/her "marital assets" because of that transgression.

Oh, I agree! I would have made out like a bandit in court if that were the law in my state.

35 posted on 09/27/2005 7:36:38 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: ElCapusto

I wouldn't trust stats from Playboy and some sex therapist touting a book called the Monogamy Myth.


36 posted on 09/27/2005 7:39:02 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Fairview
"Yes, it used to be that a man who was unfaithful to his wife in this country and left her and his children to be with some young floozy would be socially ostracized."

Must've been before Reagan did it to his wife and kids. Since then it's been socially acceptable in our country. Notice Newt and Rudy? Hell, when you think about it Clinton's been one of the few that stayed after the affair.

37 posted on 09/27/2005 7:40:51 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: ElCapusto; All
The issue is not adultery.. it is commitment... Our nation has a serious problem with commitment to anything... family, marriage, children, education, jobs, you name it... it all appears to erupt from a lack of commitment to God...

We just don't get it! .. we have evolved into humans that demand instant excitement.. i.e. Families that take very little time from our personal quest but are expected to be perfect.. marriages that are to be 24/7 exciting, fun-filled, sexual experiences - (otherwise.. we try to find these stimulating actions in drugs, alcohol, affairs, etc.).. education in books/classrooms that never move to implementation of learned actions.. jobs that immediately pay large compensations without the borders of productivity, attendance, personal ownership of professional life..

A nation of Christian/Judea people who attend church, attend prayer sessions, profess to be caring/nurturing participants in a civil society - but in reality leave their commitment to God in their place of worship, on their podiums, or in their public statements.. never moving God's demand for commitment to long term, hard, frustrating actions...

To be fair, many of our people do understand and endorse deep commitment.. but their numbers are diminishing with each sunrise.. in favor of fun, excitement, feel-good, instant gratification...

The answer is anchored in commitment!

Just my top of the head thinking on a beautiful Tuesday Morning...

Think I will go and hug my "other" of 30 years then call all of our children to remind them of our love and support for their individual commitments to God...
38 posted on 09/27/2005 7:41:10 AM PDT by Fritzy
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To: ElCapusto
>ADULTERY IS KILLING THE AMERICAN FAMILY









Wow. And Melrose Place
has been off the air for years.
Can't blame Amanda . . .

39 posted on 09/27/2005 7:44:13 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: ElCapusto
ADULTERY IS KILLING THE AMERICAN FAMILY

Whoa Nelly! Now there's a shocker!

But so what? Murder kills people too. It’s not like I murdered anyone. And I’m basically a good person. I don’t steal anything. That clerk gave me back too much change but I deserved it because that store is overpriced anyway. I may see the car in the driveway next door but I don’t steal it. But I gotta say, I wouldn’t mind having it – I deserve to "treat myself right". I mean, I have an OK car – gets me where I want to go and all but it has these rust spots and dings. It NEEDS to be replaced, alright? And as for lying? Hey, why not “bend” the truth to ensure I get what I want; if a president can do it why not me? Which brings me to that babe at work – hey, what the wife doesn’t know won’t hurt her. And as for authority, particularly parents, well, they were just in the way with their lame ideas and restrictions – clueless, basically. I have my life to live and it’s not my problem if my parents, or my teachers, or my boss can’t get in line with my way of thinking. I have to take care of #1. Hey, I do ok. I’m no worse than anyone else, anyway.

Now let us be realistic. The problem is not that we ignore the last six, it is that we ignore the first four. Perhaps we haven't noticed; the attack is directed at the first four, and for good reason; if the first four are ignored the last six are irrelevant.

Have a nice day.

40 posted on 09/27/2005 7:49:03 AM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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