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To all Evilontionists and Ignoramuses (that's Latin and not an ad hominem)

Three Givens, Three Questions:

The big bang formed a spinning mass and hurled this matter across the universe and as it cooled it formed heavier matter, stars and then lastly planets.

Thus all energy, momentum, gravity, etc was put in place and all subsequent interactions follow from this one bang absent any extra universal input.

The most basic law of physics says that objects will remain in their state of motion until acted upon by external forces.

There is a lesser known to laymen law called the conservation of angular momentum. The basics are that objects spinning in one direction releasing objects from within to the without, those objects which are cast forth retain the exact and specific momentum of the source.

For example, a merry go round spinning clockwise will release riders who inherit a clockwise rotational spin. There is no possibility of releasing counter clockwise particles. None. The only way to have any such effect is if the released particles were directly influenced by a force greater than the original force.

In the case of the merry go round and riders, some outside force greater than the merry go round would have to seize the expelled rider in mid air and produce two times the energy force to stop the clockwise rotation and then apply the counter clockwise energy required to spin the rider in the opposite direction. Again Newton said it best, an equal and opposite reaction.

The famous 2nd law of thermal dynamics and entropy naturally says that things go from order to disorder, from energy to less energy. Nothing is ever added to the universe.

We have galaxies supposedly billions of light years away (forgoing the speed of light problem for now), the questions are these:

#1: Why do some galaxies spin clockwise and some counter clockwise?
#2: Why are some spiral galaxies farther away than non spiral galaxies?
#3: What source of energy can produce both effects simultaneously without a loss of energy?


69 posted on 09/23/2005 10:57:02 AM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: Waywardson
Here's one that might or might not be added to the list of wonders:

Why do we appear to be in the center of the universe?

Since Copernicus and Galilei we ought to be shy about this observation.

74 posted on 09/23/2005 11:08:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: Waywardson
"the conservation of angular momentum. The basics are that objects spinning in one direction releasing objects from within to the without, those objects which are cast forth retain the exact and specific momentum of the source."

Wrong.

"For example, a merry go round spinning clockwise will release riders who inherit a clockwise rotational spin. There is no possibility of releasing counter clockwise particles. None."

Wrong.

76 posted on 09/23/2005 11:10:41 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: Waywardson
The famous 2nd law of thermal dynamics and entropy naturally says that things go from order to disorder, from energy to less energy. Nothing is ever added to the universe.

On a universe-wide scale the 2nd law is most certainly in force. We've gone from total order -- where everything was concentrated at one point, to fast increasing disorder. Current models predict a gradual heat death for the universe as it expands and cools, with all protons eventually decaying. The 2nd law doesn't prohibit localized order, which is what you see with stars and galaxies, but the overall trend is clearly entropic.

94 posted on 09/23/2005 11:38:59 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Waywardson
The big bang formed a spinning mass and hurled this matter across the universe and as it cooled it formed heavier matter, stars and then lastly planets.

Well, right off the bat you're wrong. Nothing got hurled across the universe; the universe itself expanded from a singularity.

Since you cannot be bothered to actually understand a subject before you post on it, I'll assume all your other points are as poorly researched and can just be tossed out without consideration.

95 posted on 09/23/2005 11:39:43 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Waywardson
The big bang formed a spinning mass

There is no net spin to the universe--fact of observation. This is a good thing since it allows for the possibility of time. Not a guarantee, time may well be an illusion after all.

100 posted on 09/23/2005 11:42:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: Waywardson
#1: Why do some galaxies spin clockwise and some counter clockwise?

Congratulations, you have achieved a new level of triviality

The direction you think a galaxy is spinning depends on wheter you are looking at it from the "topside" or from the "underside"

133 posted on 09/23/2005 3:07:27 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This isn't your Founding Fathers' Free Republic any more)
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To: Waywardson
Most of the stuff you think needs explained can't be explained because it's wrong. Your post is what happens when you get your science from creationist pamphlets and web sites.
149 posted on 09/23/2005 4:46:33 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Waywardson
"#1: Why do some galaxies spin clockwise and some counter clockwise?"

Aside from the other solutions to your little quiz that have already been given, the side an object passes another can determine the direction of 'spin' as they begin to orbit one another. As gravity pulls a number of objects together spin can be imparted on the collection of objects.

In other words, the direction of spin need not be a product of the initial Planck era of the expansion of space.

"#2: Why are some spiral galaxies farther away than non spiral galaxies?

You ask this before asking why some Galaxies are spiral and some are not? Perhaps you should explain why Galaxies take different configurations, then explain why they should be different distances away? The assumption that globular and other non-spiral Galaxies are less evolved or more evolved (sorry I couldn't help myself) than spiral Galaxies and therefore are supposedly of different age so should be at different distances is a bad assumption and completely ignores the reasons for the different shapes.

As a question of my own:

#1 What happens when 2 Galaxies collide. How about 3 Galaxies?
#2 What happens when one Galaxy just misses another Galaxy?
#3 What happens when you restrict your information sources to creationist sources rather than science sources?

166 posted on 09/23/2005 7:08:46 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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