To: Alamo-Girl
> Would you care to discuss the physics?
What would be the point? Creationism isn't about physics, logic or evidence. It's about faith that runs counter to all those. Debate is thus virtually impossible. All that's left is appropriately directed mockery.
> would you care to discuss the math?
See above.
46 posted on
09/23/2005 6:09:22 AM PDT by
orionblamblam
("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
To: orionblamblam; betty boop; xzins
Thank you for your reply!
What would be the point? Creationism isn't about physics, logic or evidence. It's about faith that runs counter to all those. Debate is thus virtually impossible. All that's left is appropriately directed mockery.
I was speaking of mathematics, physics and the intelligent design hypothesis - not creationism. More specifically, I asserted at post 17:
Because we as yet do not have a full explanation for space/time and energy/matter it is impossible to say that what we presume is randomness (for instance at the quantum level) is actually random in the system.
If you expect me or most of the Lurkers and posters here to give weight to your declaration that the above is "Freshman-level stoned philosophy major hogwash." then please state your case. For instance, if you believe that science has a full explanation of space/time and energy/matter then please give sources. Or if you believe that it is nevertheless appropriate to declare a thing random when the system in which it is contained is undetermined, then explain your reasoning.
For Lurkers: an example might be the extension of pi. One could select a string of number from the extension and declare it "random". But if one considers the "system" of the calculation of pi it is apparant that the string is highly determined - it would always contain the same numbers in the same positions - and thus the string is not random in the system. My point was that the system of physical reality is not yet fully understood - both space/time and matter/energy - and thus "randomness" is a false and misleading term (especially in these debates).
If you don't have specific arguments, I shall ignore your declaration.
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