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To: orionblamblam

> Until man can explain ALL phenomena (omniscience) God cannot be dismissed.

And by that logic, *no* gods ever imagined can be dismissed. No supernatural critters, no fairies, no elves, no goblins, no gremlins, no Loch Ness Monster, no Bigfoot, no Thoughtful Intelligent Well-Meaning Liberal can ever be dismissed.<<

Are you accepting them as phenomena? If so, they cannot be dismissed, until you know what the explanation is for them. That is assuming you wish to turn the light of scientific exploration on them. You dismissed them as supernatural without any such exploration. There is some good science trying to unravel the mysteries of hallucinations, dreams etc.

That is why at the beginning of this thread I asked the basic question: Is there any phenomena that is supernatural? There are only two types of phenonmena, the explained, and the unexplained. Supernatural is part of the unexplained, and I pose that you cannot call it supernatural until the explanation is known. A tough standard, I know.

Calling a phenomena supernatural is just a way of saying I don't want to look at it, but I want to shut down the discussion anyway.

DK

...no Thoughtful Intelligent Well-Meaning Liberal can ever be dismissed. I cannot dismiss my father.


296 posted on 09/25/2005 7:26:59 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Dark Knight

> Are you accepting them as phenomena?

I accept that some people seem to believe that they exist. But the convincing, objective evidence is wholly lacking.

> You dismissed them as supernatural without any such exploration.

Well, except for the past several hundred years worth...

> Calling a phenomena supernatural is just a way of saying I don't want to look at it, but I want to shut down the discussion anyway.

You're describign the ID/Creationism camp. "God did it, end of discussion."


302 posted on 09/25/2005 8:45:55 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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