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I doubt we'll see much "looting" in Texas
Self-Defender Net ^ | Sep 22, 2005

Posted on 09/22/2005 3:11:48 PM PDT by blogblogginaway

The Self Defense Laws Of Texas

The Texas Constitution Article 1 - BILL OF RIGHTS Section 23 - RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS

Deadly Force in Defense of Person

"A person is justified in using deadly force against another if he would be justified in using force under Section 9.31 of the statute when and to the degree he reasonable believes that deadly force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force, if a reasonable person in the same situation would have not retreated. The use of deadly force is also justified to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, rape or robbery."

Defense of Another Person

"A person is justified in using deadly force against an attacker to protect another person if he would be justified to use it to protect himself against an unlawful attack and he reasonably believes his intervention is immediately necessary to protect the other person from serious injury or death."

Deadly Force to Protect Property

"A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect his property to the degree he reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, theft during the nighttime or criminal mischief during the nighttime, and he reasonably believes that the property cannot be protected by any other means."

"A person is justified in using deadly force against another to pervent the other who is fleeing after committing burglary, robbery, or theft during the nighttime, from escaping with the property and he reasonable believes that the property cannot be recovered by any other means; or, the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the property would expose him or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury. (Nighttime is defined as the period 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise.)"

Protection of the Property of Others

"A person is justified in using force or deadly force against another to protect the property of a third person if he reasonably believes he would be justified to use similar force to protect his own property, and he reasonably believes that there existed an attempt or actual commission of the crime of theft or criminal mischief."

"Also, a person is justified in using force or deadly force if he reasonably believes that the third person has requested his protection of property; or he has a legal duty to protect the property; or the third person whose property he is protecting is his spouse, parent or child."

Reasonable Belief

"It is not necessary that there should be actual danger, as a person has the right to defend his life and person from apparent danger as fully and to the same extent as he would have were the danger real, as it reasonably appeared to him from his standpoint at the time."

"In fact, Sec 9.31(a) [of the Penal Code] expressly provides that a person is justified in using deadly force against another when and to the degree he reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; gunlaw; looters; rita; texas
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Somehow I think Rita will have different after effects than Katrina.
1 posted on 09/22/2005 3:11:52 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: blogblogginaway

Somehow I think you are right. :)


2 posted on 09/22/2005 3:12:23 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: blogblogginaway
There are no looters or looting...just undocumented consumers initiating indefinite, deferred payment plans.
3 posted on 09/22/2005 3:13:12 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?)
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To: BoBToMatoE

Right, 5 or 6 dollars per gallon instead of 3 if those refineries are damaged badly.


4 posted on 09/22/2005 3:13:50 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
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To: blogblogginaway

Perhaps, but downtown Houston looks pretty scary with people running lights and some minor civil disorder going on.

Some neighborhoods of Houston (5th Ward for example) are no better than areas of NO.


5 posted on 09/22/2005 3:14:05 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A good friend helps you move. A great friend helps you move a body.)
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To: blogblogginaway

I am already on the look out for targets... I mean looters!


6 posted on 09/22/2005 3:14:46 PM PDT by Syntyr (From West Houston Galleria/Memorial area! Locked and Loaded)
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To: blogblogginaway

If they loot, we must shoot


7 posted on 09/22/2005 3:16:36 PM PDT by msnimje (Cogito Ergo Sum Republican)
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To: blogblogginaway

The use of arms to defend and protect you and yours is justifiable retribution. (Sounds good and I hope I'm right.)


8 posted on 09/22/2005 3:18:09 PM PDT by GOPologist ("On some days you may feel like a dog; on other days you may feel like a hydrant!")
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If they loot, we must shoot

Go ahead...make my day.

9 posted on 09/22/2005 3:18:35 PM PDT by kanecorp
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To: blogblogginaway

Makes me want to go to Texas just to see if I can help out -- with the looters, I mean.


10 posted on 09/22/2005 3:18:41 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: blogblogginaway

agree


11 posted on 09/22/2005 3:20:07 PM PDT by WasDougsLamb (Just my opinion.Go easy on me........)
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To: blogblogginaway

you bet'cha! ;o)


12 posted on 09/22/2005 3:21:21 PM PDT by N8VTXNinWV (Native Texan, Ft. Worth gal)
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To: WasDougsLamb

"Those are not looters, they're just angry tax-payers." --Crazy Al


13 posted on 09/22/2005 3:22:06 PM PDT by Translates
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Texas law is not nearly as tough as that in Louisiana. Lest we forget, they can shoot you down for knocking on their door in the evening hours!

Fat lot of good that did them in stopping looting when the city was flooded!

14 posted on 09/22/2005 3:22:21 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: blogblogginaway

I lived in Austin for a while and gotta tell you, I love that state. Just a culture of good and well intended, hard working, proud Americans (for the most part).

One last thing. IMO, Texans in general are very respectable proud people. They welcome strangers with good intentions and out those with malintent, sometimes with deadly force.

Ya'll be carefull, good luck and God Speed.


15 posted on 09/22/2005 3:23:12 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
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uh oh, don't tell hildy!


16 posted on 09/22/2005 3:25:13 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: Translates

didnt say anything about looters. just agreed it would be different from Katrina. Hopefully someone learned from that.


17 posted on 09/22/2005 3:30:42 PM PDT by WasDougsLamb (Just my opinion.Go easy on me........)
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Besides the firearms issue, there is also the fact that Texas isn't a welfare ridden cesspool of immorality. Like Mississippi and Alabama before it, Texas will avoid much of the disgrace in New Orleans because it has competent elected officials put in place by people who value integrity more than a welfare check.
18 posted on 09/22/2005 3:31:00 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke

MS-13 and its ilk are probably already working their way towards the targeted area. The problem here isn't going to be locals, it's going to be undesireables coming in from outside.


19 posted on 09/22/2005 3:33:59 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: blogblogginaway

There's probably 250K Texans with Concealed Carry, active or pending, for a start. As for the number of guns in TX?

"If you take 17 million people in Texas and multiply that by about three, you've probably got that many guns." ~
Jim Brown, legislative director for the Texas State Rifle Association (speaking in 1997).

More about Texans and their firearms here >>>
http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/nation/guns/part3/pro.html


20 posted on 09/22/2005 3:34:52 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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