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To: ChildOfThe60s
Sorry folks. I had high hopes of a Reaganesque conservative in W, but that is simply not the case.

How was Ronald Reagan conservative? Raised taxes, cut and run in Lebanon, did nothing for pro-lifers, ran up a huge deficit, and granted a huge amnesty to illegal aliens.

Other than facing down Gorbachev, I can't see where Reagan was anywhere close to Bush in terms of conservatism.

86 posted on 09/21/2005 7:34:13 PM PDT by sinkspur (Just west of DFW Airport. We can take in four or five and two dogs.)
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To: sinkspur

Maybe you should look at this: How a Cause Was Born
Ronald Reagan, father of the pro-life movement: http://www.opinionjournal.com/ac/?id=110004264


89 posted on 09/21/2005 7:40:10 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: sinkspur

I respect Bush and fought hard both times to have him elected. However, he has been a dissapointment lately as has the entire Republican party . They are acting like loosers and havent stood up to the maniac Dems as they should have. I get the feeling they are getting lazy ..BIG MISTAKE.


91 posted on 09/21/2005 7:42:14 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: sinkspur
How was Ronald Reagan conservative? Raised taxes, cut and run in Lebanon, did nothing for pro-lifers, ran up a huge deficit, and granted a huge amnesty to illegal aliens.

I didn't say a 'perfect" conservative. One of those will never run for, nor get elected to, the presidency.

RR pushed through the congress serious tax cuts, and then made the tactical error of cutting a deal with the DIMs in a [smaller] tax increase. We still were better off than before both. But yes, it was wrong to go with the increase.

RR did what he could for pro-life. Based on the make up of congress for his terms and the way the majority of the electorate was leaning, I don't see that he could have concretely done any more. I think his public support of the movement has a lot to do with the size and [the perceived] legitimacy of pro lifers now. Incrementalism has to start somewhere.

Lebanon? Pathetic from the get go through to the end. Putting miltary personel out with unloaded weapons is nothing short of criminal. It was happening before that and is still going on [Bosnia]. No excuse.

He did not run up (was not at fault for) the deficit. Total myth. Liberal urban legend. That is subject for another discussion thread, but it's total crapolla.

Amnesty? Big mistake. But, in his defense, he was expecting the congress to follow up with better immigration controls. I believe that, had RR had eight years of a pubbie controlled congress, he would fare much better with a domestic agenda (to my liking) than GW has so far.

103 posted on 09/21/2005 7:54:42 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: sinkspur

"How was Ronald Reagan conservative?"

Amazing statement. I guess if you have to ask you wouldn't understand.


427 posted on 09/22/2005 11:56:44 AM PDT by Pessimist
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