[inquest]

That's like asking if ant holes are natural or artificial. The word "artificial" is generally understood to mean, done by humans, or by lifeforms with at least a similar level of intelligence and sentience.

[js1138]

That's like asking if ant holes are natural or artificial. The word "artificial" is generally understood to mean, done by humans, or by lifeforms with at least a similar level of intelligence and sentience.

That is the general usage of the term, but humans are part of the natural world.

[donh]

That's like asking if ant holes are natural or artificial. The word "artificial" is generally understood to mean, done by humans, or by lifeforms with at least a similar level of intelligence and sentience.

Well, fine, but artificial vs. natural isn't the same question as supernatural vs natural--how many definitional ratholes are we going to wonder into? If it weren't for the ID proponents that think supernatural vs. natural is the relevant question, we'd not be under any more pressure to consider ID a science than we are to consider crystal healing energy a science. May I take it you think aphid evolution is natural, but dog evolution is not? Because humans are smarter than ants? What is the value of this distinction?