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Bush vows 'biggest relief effort'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4250308.stm ^ | BBC News Information

Posted on 09/15/2005 6:50:47 PM PDT by anonymoussierra

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To: Calpernia
We do when it is a Federal Homeland Security issue.

If there's a security issue with regard to Castro-affiliated businesses, then the response is to investigate such businesses for violating trade sanctions against him. What is rebuilding New Orleans going to do, except enable those businesses to be up and running faster? Not spending money to rebuild it is more likely to tip the balance towards businessmen who weren't already set up in New Orleans, because they won't be digging themselves out of a financial hole.

41 posted on 09/15/2005 7:19:29 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: anonymoussierra

And people thought I was cheap sice I've hid my wallet in my rectum for years. Now I'm going to get the last laugh because no one is sgoing up there to get it but me.


42 posted on 09/15/2005 7:19:58 PM PDT by hophead (" Enjoy Every Sandwich WZ")
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To: mudblood
It was their money too. Thank God for Bush, who shows America the meaning of compassion. Bush is not talking about welfare.

I seen estimates of over 200Billion... What percentage of that was taxes from those 3 states? 50 States that would be 6% 12Billion out of 200Billion that they provided.(i knows its probably less than that given that those are "poor" states)

43 posted on 09/15/2005 7:20:44 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Echo Talon
The market provides incentives, if there's economic value in having a port there. They're called jobs.
44 posted on 09/15/2005 7:20:51 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest
It's official. The 2000 campaign theme of "limited government" was all a lie.

Sorry, but that's just plain ridiculous. A major city is, for all intents and purposes, destroyed and he's just supposed to say, "Sorry, y'all! Sure sucks to be you." You honestly expected that?

45 posted on 09/15/2005 7:21:07 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: anonymoussierra

You have a better grasp on this situation than most Americans. Unfortunately, we are a miseducated country, thanks to government schools.

Private enterprise should be the ones making the decision to rebuild the area. If there's an economic reason, it will happen. The government's role should be to step out of the way.

But when's the llast time you heard of a politician acting like that?


46 posted on 09/15/2005 7:21:18 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the looting! The IRS hates competition.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
The problem is.....It's our money!!!! I'm tired of these spineless Republican wimps! Give, give, give, when will they give back!!!! Poor them, that's the problem! We, the middle class are maxed out!!! Insurance costs & taxes are through the roof, what's next! My husband & I are so disgusted, the party has left us!
47 posted on 09/15/2005 7:22:30 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland
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To: Peach
our taxes have gone down and this president isn't going to raise your taxes once red cent.

But the next 5 will raise them and bush will be blamed for it and ruining the economy.

Wait and watch...

48 posted on 09/15/2005 7:22:49 PM PDT by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking...)
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To: inquest

Market can't provide incentives if it isn't making any money. Bottom line first.


49 posted on 09/15/2005 7:23:42 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: All

5 to 10 years from now it'll happen again. Also, I hope you all know that hurrican season is NOT OVER? In fact, it's just starting.

Florida is a good vacation spot but not to live.


50 posted on 09/15/2005 7:23:42 PM PDT by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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To: anonymoussierra

I'm convinced.

The era of LBJ-Bush - Great Society - begins. I'll be quitting work and waiting for my welfare check.


51 posted on 09/15/2005 7:23:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Member of Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: ItsForTheChildren
I expect him to let the market take over and do what it does better than any government: Allocate resources towards those things that maximize prosperity. If the presence of a port city right there is one such thing, then money will flow towards that goal.
52 posted on 09/15/2005 7:25:01 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: sergeantdave

I hear ya!!! Good grief!!!


53 posted on 09/15/2005 7:25:50 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland
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To: inquest
The Constitution is ordained and established to provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare this comes under general welfare.

The existence of New Orleans is in the National interest.
54 posted on 09/15/2005 7:26:41 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: mudblood
Bush discovered a money tree in the back yard of the white house. Now its just a matter of who to give all the free money to.
55 posted on 09/15/2005 7:27:21 PM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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To: inquest

>>>If there's a security issue with regard to Castro-affiliated businesses, then the response is to investigate such businesses for violating trade sanctions against him.

Those investigations are in progress.

>>>>What is rebuilding New Orleans going to do, except enable those businesses to be up and running faster?

If New Orleans is not rebuilt, it is subject to be condemned which will leave the opportunity for development with people that have business affiliations with the corrupt Louisianna Government who is still currently in control who are still currently being investigated.

The legit businesses are in a financial hole.

The corrupt ones are not and are still being chased. They have other locations within the US and around the globe.

New Orleans is a port access to the Mississippi. We, in the USA have other ports that access the Mississippi; but that is NOT an access that any of us want to make available to enemy eliments.

We all scream, 'secure our borders'. Well, this is a border. One that goes right up the river.


56 posted on 09/15/2005 7:28:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Echo Talon
There will be money to be made. It's like this: People in the middle part of the country want to buy things from abroad and sell things abroad. You see there's money to be made in helping them convey these things back and forth. You see that one of the most efficient places to do that is in a coastal area that can host a seaport, so you build facilities there and hire people to help convey items in and out of the port. That's how capitalism works.
57 posted on 09/15/2005 7:28:40 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Peach
"And it's a good thing that people will be lifted out of poverty, if possible, and will no longer live in slums that are rife with gangs and drug dealers. Let their children grow up in safety and know that not everyone lives the way they have been living. Give them hope.

It's going to take a lot of money. And America has money. In spades."

Exaclty how is President Bush going to spend our money in spades to "lift people out of poverty," keep them from living in slums, let their children grow up in safety and keep them free of drugs and crime?

Because it seems to me that we've been doing exactly that, spending our money in spades on those problems for the last 40 years. The nicest thing you can say about the result is that it has destroyed the inner city family, destroyed inner city family values, and created unprecedented poverty crime and drug use. And slums. The worst thing that can be said about it is that it has potentially changed the entire founding concept of our nation to the concept of the founding of the Republic of France. Which is ominous, to me.

IMO, anything other than temporary help makes things much worse. Without getting into whether the federal government is the appropriate agency for charity, I will admit to being in favor of temporary help. Lots of it.

But regardless of how much Bush spends on the Gulf Coast, it will do no good unless the investors, businessmen, and property owners rebuild. Which they will do if government doesn't get in the way. And that rebuilding effort will provide tons of jobs, maybe some folks can get off welfare and start getting ahead.

58 posted on 09/15/2005 7:30:50 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Mike Darancette
The Constitution is ordained and established to provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare

And it provides for specific powers toward that goal. Rebuilding cities after disasters is not among the powers listed.

The existence of New Orleans is in the National interest.

I have every bit of confidence that the market can determine the utility of having a port in that location. If it's useful to have one, money will flow there through the normal operations of the market.

59 posted on 09/15/2005 7:31:28 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: sergeantdave
There is a sharp line between give and take.

The line has been crossed.

Signed,

A Texas Resident

60 posted on 09/15/2005 7:31:31 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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