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Posted on 09/15/2005 4:25:55 PM PDT by SJackson
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:25:57 PM PDT
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
"We know the Mark of the Beast is going to come, the Bible tells us that," Clarence said. "We're not willing to participate in that voluntarily. I think I can speak for everybody here that we don't want to take that chip into our bodies for tracking. We've got to stop somewhere to take our stand against that." Well, why not? Why try to postpone biblical prophecy, if that's what you believe?
You think this sinful world with death and sorrow is preferable to what has been prophesized to replace it?
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:31:20 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: SJackson
Good grief. There's another group that needs to come up out of the dark ages.
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:40:04 PM PDT
by
tkathy
(Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
To: Dog Gone
"Well, why not? Why try to postpone biblical prophecy, if that's what you believe?"
I know that some day you will die. If you come to me injured tomorrow and I let you die, claiming you are going to die anyway, have I done something wrong? The Amish are the barometers of true liberty in this country.
To: SJackson
Mr. Fourdraine disagreed with the Amish argument that the current animal ID and tracking system is sufficient to handle a major disease outbreak. Social control through crisis management if you do not have a crisis one will be issued to you.
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:42:35 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
To: Dog Gone
"Well, why not? Why try to postpone biblical prophecy, if that's what you believe?
"You think this sinful world with death and sorrow is preferable to what has been prophesized to replace it?"
Bible-believing people cannot not merely sit unopposed to the system of evil that is prophesied. The system of the Antichrist is on the way (many aspects already operating), but we intend to stand against the evil of it so that some who are ignorant and need living demonstrations of allegiance to God's holiness will understand the difference. The Apostle Paul prophesied that "perilous times shall come" (2 Timothy ch. 3), and it not only shall come, but we are in the throes of it. But Christians are to refrain from the things that make these times perilous, and we are to speak for God and righteousness as witnesses for Christ in these end perilous times.
To: tkathy
Good grief. There's another group that needs to come up out of the dark ages. No, their lifestyle harms no one, and is centuries removed from the dark ages.
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:43:54 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(“I worry that I've seen this movie before”, Rep. Mark Kirk on aid to palestinians.)
To: joesnuffy
"Social control through crisis management if you do not have a crisis one will be issued to you."
Excellently put.
To: SJackson
We're not rich, but money should not be our first concern. The Bible should be our first concern. If we stand together and do it the right way, with the help of God, we can do something."
I admire that attitude.
To: SJackson
One buttholecan make the country take Under God out of the schools, but a whole religion of people cant stop the government from marking their animals in contravention to their religion.
To: tkathy
"Good grief. There's another group that needs to come up out of the dark ages."
If that is so, it is up to them, not the government, which should be protecting the Amish folks' right to remain in the "Dark Ages" if they so prefer.
To: tkathy
Good grief. There's another group that needs to come up out of the dark ages. It's called "religious freedom". Are you against it?
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:47:36 PM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
To: SJackson; All
What? No ping to Moi? *SNIF*
"We have a system that works, why not let it work?"
I know Amish families in both Wisconsin and Iowa. They, for lack of a better term, have their sh*t together. I, personally, see this as religious persecution from the state...which doesn't surprise me in the least from bright BLUE Wisconsin legislators.
Yeah. Those Amish. They're in the news on a daily basis; dem Rabble Rousers! /sarcasm
*Shakes Head, Walks Away*
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:51:07 PM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: AmishDude
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:51:38 PM PDT
by
BipolarBob
(I'm really BagdadBob under the witness protection program.)
To: SJackson
Although I think their end reasoning is a bit, shall we say, loco, I have to agree with the fact that ID chips, etc., when implemented by the government, are completely wrong be they for pets or for humans.
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:51:40 PM PDT
by
ShadowDancer
(Stupid people make my brain sad.)
To: SJackson
The Amish are an admirable group of people.
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:56:24 PM PDT
by
Serb5150
(www.illmitch.com)
To: Dog Gone
Dog Gone,
You forgot one thing. If we accept any mark or chip that can track us now, we will accept the system used by Satan later.
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posted on
09/15/2005 4:59:36 PM PDT
by
AReaganGirl
(Jesus came to take away our self righteousness and give us His righteousness!)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Sorry.
I know Amish families in both Wisconsin and Iowa. They, for lack of a better term, have their sh*t together.
And they make great pies, and bread.
I, personally, see this as religious persecution from the state...which doesn't surprise me in the least from bright BLUE Wisconsin legislators.
Probably not persecution, they just don't care. I don't understand the chipping thing anyway.
Chipping horses? Are the exporting them to France? We don't eat them here. If McDonalds doesn't want what livestock they raise, let them have it butchered and sold locally, buyer of unchipped beed beware.
Think they're going to chip the buffalo?
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posted on
09/15/2005 5:01:02 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(“I worry that I've seen this movie before”, Rep. Mark Kirk on aid to palestinians.)
To: Free Baptist
If that is so, it is up to them, not the government, which should be protecting the Amish folks' right to remain in the "Dark Ages" if they so prefer.Or just leave them alone, the most difficult of all concepts for government.
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posted on
09/15/2005 5:02:00 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(“I worry that I've seen this movie before”, Rep. Mark Kirk on aid to palestinians.)
To: ShadowDancer
Although I think their end reasoning is a bit, shall we say, loco, I have to agree with the fact that ID chips, etc., when implemented by the government, are completely wrong be they for pets or for humans. But you're not a legislator, probably not even a lawyer.
The first broken tooth from a chip in a Wendy's burger, instant millionaire.
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posted on
09/15/2005 5:03:14 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(“I worry that I've seen this movie before”, Rep. Mark Kirk on aid to palestinians.)
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