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To: GOV'T MULE
Hypothetically...
When Marshal Law was declared, the military, both Federal and state troops, started confiscating weapons from the civilians (I heard no distinction between hand guns for self defense or long guns, or between neighbor hoods).
If one of the purposed of the second amendment is to provide a means of resistance to federal intervention, how are the people suppose to both protect themselves and operate offensively?
24 posted on 09/11/2005 1:27:35 PM PDT by txroadhawg (Don't believe any statistics unless you made them up yourself)
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To: txroadhawg
"When Marshal Law was declared, the military, both Federal and state troops, started confiscating weapons from the civilians (I heard no distinction between hand guns for self defense or long guns, or between neighbor hoods)."

Only one problem---"martial law" was not and has not been declared. Any gun confiscations from folks not involved in criminal activity are ILLEGAL according to both state and Federal Constitutions, and I hope some of those gun owners sue the folks doing the confiscating into the poor-house.

57 posted on 09/11/2005 3:20:08 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: txroadhawg
When Marshal Law was declared

It never was. Only the governor or the President, or in some cases their military subordinates, can declare Martial (not Marhal) Law. The ability to declare martial law has been severely restricted since the 1870s, in part by passage of the Posse Commitatus Act, in part by various Court decisions.

68 posted on 09/11/2005 5:50:44 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: txroadhawg
I was thinking, when we were not preoccupied with all this hurricane business, some of us were considering the possibility of further terrorist attacks in various cities, dirty bombs, nukes, etc.

Should those happen, and turn my neighborhood into a mess, would I be similarly disarmed as authorities move in? I live in Alexandria City, part of the Virginia Commonwealth. What about Seattle, Chicago, other cities and outlying areas? I want a law on the books, superior to any federal law, stating positively that armed law abiding citizens are militia and are not to be disarmed regardless of the conditions after an emergency including but not limited to hurricane, earthquake, terrorist attack, or otherwise. This should settle the question for those who have the not-so-bright idea to allow m-16 toting agents run around collecting guns. It would be a reaffirmation of the Virginia Bill of Rights that reads as follows:

"That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies in time of peace should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power." -George Mason, Article 13 of the Virginia Declaration of Rights of 1776.

And if there is any doubt about what "militia" means, click the LINK and start reading with #2 what George Mason has to say.

I would also add that if any federal government agent types are roaming around doing relief work, they should be unarmed and protected escorted and defended by Virginia militia, and watched to make sure they behave themselves. If they don't like that idea, don't even come.

Check this thread out it has good video links: LINK

You heard it here first from me. Jason_b predicts that IF there is a series of terror attacks around this country, that our own government will be the bigger problem by many magnitudes for us afterward than the initial attacks were. Mark my words. They will come to take our guns and if we fuss then we'll be painted as the ones who are hard to reason with instead of them being hard to reason with even though they will be in the wrong. We should also remember, that sometimes when people come to help, there are strings attached. You accept benefits, you give up something.

78 posted on 09/11/2005 7:07:35 PM PDT by Jason_b
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