Posted on 09/10/2005 11:46:13 AM PDT by pcottraux
You know 'em, you love 'em. Just about all of us have clashed with 'em at times. What's more, it's fun to bust and get rid of them, and that helps make FR even more exciting.
But why do they do it? Why do liberals--and they're usually far-left ones--come here and put on phony screen names so they can "infiltrate" this right-wing forum? They seem to have a tendency to make outrageous statements that get them busted the same day they join. What are they trying to accomplish?
Just yesterday, after one of them made an obvious statement, I caught onto him. He started making insane left-wing rants, before I reported him, and he vanished. It was fun to imagine the little wuss screaming in pain as he was busted and yanked. After he was gone, and all his comments replaced by “Comment Removed” messages, I made a statement on the stupidity of these people, blowing their own cover right after they join. What kind of espionage is that?
But then, ANOTHER one came in, and had this to say before he, too, was yanked:
“Yeah, those trolls are seriously brain dead. They are so caught up in that so-called ‘freedom of speech thing’ that they don't know how to watch what they say when talking to us Republicans that are able to remove their thoughts when we disagree with them. Gosh, they are so silly!”
Fortunately, this troll is also no longer with us, at least not under the same screen name. But upon reading his statement here, a realization comes. THAT’S IT! This comment helps get to the heart of the DU trolls’ mindset, and exactly what it is they’re doing—or trying to do. Hopefully, some of them here will read this, and realize how futile their efforts are.
Basically, DU trolls like the one who made the above statement are classic examples of people suffering what I call LNM, or Liberal Narcissistic Martyrdom. This is a common mental ailment of left-wingers. In essence, it involves a self-image of being a “heroic rebel against the system” who “dares to stand up for what they believe in.” In an egotistical way, they envision themselves as “underdogs” who are in a perpetual state of “standing up to fight the corporate system.” They are ALWAYS standing up against this system, or some proverbial system.
Michael Moore, or at least the public image he makes of himself, is a classic example of this. Actually, one of the best examples I can think of is famed hippy doctor Patch Adams. His movie about himself, starring Robin Williams, is a complete show of just what an egotistical blowhard a liberal can be when he envisions himself “standing up to fight the system” at all times, under all circumstances. I assume that “Patch Adams” is a favorite movie among sufferers of LNM, because it is exactly how they fantasize their own lives being.
Look at the statement the DU troll made. “Yeah, those trolls are seriously brain dead. They are so caught up in that so-called ‘freedom of speech thing’…” Here, he/she/it is showing the biggest symptom of LNM…the conviction that one’s freedom of speech is being taken away, when it is not. Liberals are caught up in their first amendment rights—they’re not caught up in any other constitutional rights, like the right to bear arms, but they love that first one. And many of them, especially those with LNM, are convinced that that sacred right is going to be taken away from them when “America descends into a dictatorship.” They think Bush is Hitler, and those of us on FR are Nazis. Therefore, they think a totalitarian government is going to steal their first amendment rights. Never mind that as left-wingers, they are campaigning for more power to the government, anyway.
And that, my friends, is why these people come here under various guises. They WANT their freedom of speech taken. It gives them a Martyr Ego Boost. They crave it. So they come here, put in a phony screen name, and start spouting left-wing doctrines. As this clown sarcastically put it: “they don't know how to watch what they say when talking to us Republicans that are able to remove their thoughts when we disagree with them.” See what I mean? They seek PROOF that they’re losing their free speech, so when they get yanked from this site, it makes them feel like righteous martyrs. They get the Martyr Rush. It’s almost like drug addiction.
They’ve lived comfortably in America their whole lives, considering their dissent to show how righteous they are, and any criticism of that dissent is seen as “freedom being lost.”
The problem is that FreeRepublic.com is not a debate forum, at least not for right vs. left. There are other web forums for that. FR is a right-wing/grassroots conservatism forum. If we let one liberal stay here and debate us, then we have to let them all. Then, this is no longer a right-wing forum. So their thesis that “Republicans and Conservatives are eliminating people who disagree with them” is pretty much a dead point.
Of course, these wienies don’t know the meaning of losing free speech. They’ve never lived under a communist regime before. They should go over to North Korea and live under Kim Jong Il’s iron grip awhile. When their hands are cut off for speaking out against the government, or their tongues gouged out, or they’re skinned alive…then they’ll know what it REALLY means to lose freedom. I’ll bet the typical sufferer of LNM couldn’t stand five minutes of what Saddam Hussein’s victims had to endure. They’d come running back to the American Bush “dictatorship,” crying like babies, for sure.
Maybe JimRob could give the Mods a mechanism that "isolates" a disruptor in the following manner:
1. Causes the poster's threads and comments to be invisible to anyone else; and
2. Allows the poster's threads and comments to be visible to, and only to, the poster.
Sort of like a chinese finger trap, or that card you give an Aggie that says,
"How to keep an Aggie busy for hours. (over)"
on both sides.
Oh no, you got me. Yes, if you read my post backwards and in Latin, it reads out, "HELLO, MY NAME IS PCOTTRAUX AND I AM A TROLL. I LIKE TO HARRASS GOATS WHO CROSS THE BRIDGE I LIVE UNDER. I ALSO HAVE A KNACK FOR RAISING HECK, CAUSING TROUBLE, AND STICKING IT TO THE MAN. JELLO TASTES GOOD IN THE POWDER FORM."
It's a joke, son....
Modern liberals think they are right about everything, so they have to come up with a reason why their ideas don't work. The obvious answer is the evil Republicans are suppressing them. The come over here to "prove" that.
Don't you see the pattern? Most parents with experience can recognize the adolescent traits. Your teenager just KNOWS that he/she has discovered the answer to all of life's mysteries. They are certain that their parents are old-fashioned and haven't kept up with the times. You can't tell them anything because they already know it all. I'd like to have a dollar for every time I've heard, "Mom, you just don't know how things are now." Liberals are simply children who have never grown up.
Ya know, I didn't want to be the one to have to say this, but, I wrote down what you said and when I placed it upside down facing a cracked mirror...that's exactly what it said. Maybe you should apply for a job at the FBI as a code cracker...you're good....
Well, mine was a lot better. Tell Piedra79 I said so.
Umm, no. Please hang-up and dial again.
It would require generating article numbers and other features such as pagination on the fly for the "private" instance of the disruptor's login. People who linked back to other comments in the thread would have to have their links translated. Probably too much CPU usage to be worth it.
I've been here since the first diaper change and I can tell you right now that the changing table has never smelled worse.
Half of the crap that never gets cleaned up is left to waft like the peculiar smell that drifts out between openings and closings of the garbage can on pickup day.
What started out as almost a virgin birth has turned into a near miscarriage.
While we all had our noses pressed up against the nursery window somebody came by and mixed up the paw prints.
I really liked your analogies. They were descriptive, detailed, and clever. Now, what exactly did they mean?
Metaphysical metaphorism; the pot's always full even when half of the cups are empty.
I wonder if they log onto DU and spout right wing stuff to see if they get banned?
That's a pretty good analysis, kiddo.
I take a simpler view:
trolls are like the guy that wants to have his dog put to sleep, cause every time he kicks it, it tries to bite him.
FreeRepublic NEVER bans trolls for arguing an alternative viewpoint. They get banned for "campaigning" which is not subject to logical disputation.
Please don't take my example wrong because in no way do I support Cindy Sheehan or anything she stands for. As an example though, the initial message was about a mother who had lost her son in Iraq and she wanted to embarass President Bush by demanding he meet with her to answer her asinine questions. That quickly changed and all sorts of people with differing agendas joined up with Sheehan as she was the one getting some publicity. Her initial message became more and more diluted and as proved here on FR, she wasn't the simple, grieving mother who wanted answers to her questions.
Israeli's running the country, support for Palestine, the displaying of all of the crosses regardless of how the relatives felt, her legacy which allowed her to abandon her remaining children (even when she was asked to come home) and to believe the legacy was bigger than her marriage...all of these and more became what her movement was about. Don't forget who her main supporters were either, Code Pink along with the activists, Ben and Jerry of ice cream fame. I can only recall one group which was kicked out of her camp and it was a group actively promoting socialism.
What does it say about her group when her biggest supporters on site were Code Pink members. What does it say when one of her main celebrity supporters was Al Sharpston?
If you read many threads on FR, you'll see dissent such as legalization of drugs vs cracking down harder. Many disagree with President Bush's immigration policy, we'd rather have a strong border which is strictly enforced. On the other hand there are those who do agree with Bush's idea on immigration.
We really don't need wacko liberals adding to the mix because there's already enough to debate and discuss between us.
Not only that but I for one don't want to be made fun of for my beliefs. I don't want to read thread after thread about how government needs to grow because after all, there oughta be a law against this,that or the other. (Whatever their flavor of that is at the moment) If you're that interested in their beliefs there are plenty of websites you can go visit. Just don't try to sign up in order to debate them because they don't allow dissenting opinion and if you present any facts to them, you'll get tombstoned immediatelu.
Well they call us NAZIs, there has to be a reason for this.
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