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To: M. Espinola
You do a fine job on your own [demonstrating you're a racist], attacking ex-slaves such as Frederick Douglass. What's your reason for so disliking Frederick Douglass?

C'mon, you steaming pile. Show me where I attacked Fredrick Douglass.

I didn't. In fact, I used him as an expert authority on the feelings of abolitionists toward Union. He was also an authority on the character of Lincoln, in my opinion.

plus repeatedly attack 'Abolitionists'.

Huh? What brand are you smoking? I did not attack abolitionists as you have claimed. I demonstrated that abolitionists had no desire for empire or conquest. Those were your heroes who you exhonerated and demanded that we "Thank goodness for" them [Colonel K, #899].

Why should I thank goodness that our country was led astray by ambitious, power-hungry men who sought bloody conquest over their brethren. Why in Sam Hell would I thank goodness for any American leaders who wished to rid the continent entirely of Negroes, Mexicans, and Indians? What kind of pig would thank goodness for the leadership of such men?

I am not the one coming onto FR and defending the racial views of Stephens or Davis. I'm defending their political rights. You and Colonel K, however, want to launch into a referendum of loyalty which hinges on the racial views of the Radicals and Lincoln. I'm telling you: With respect to racial views, they were pigs, as is anyone who defends them. You're better off sticking to the political arguments for Union, which hold no legal weight; only emotional attachment.

How come you hate everyone who tired to end slavery in the South?

Who do I hate?

You've failed to support any of the accusations you've made. You've failed to respond to any of the questions I've posed. You've failed to respond to any of the factual material I've posted.

So what now, Espinola? Where will you take us next?

925 posted on 10/10/2005 6:37:26 PM PDT by Gianni
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To: Gianni
"I am not the one coming onto FR and defending the racial views of Stephens or Davis. I'm defending their political rights."

Oh I see, we would want to infringe on their precious political rights to be white supremacist racist 'pigs' (your term) or prevent them from starting a Civil War in this country. By all means the bad guys 'rights' must always be upheld over decent citizens. (Sarcasm)

Is it your opinion we should also protect the political rights of the likes of psycho jihadic killers if they are Americans? Nazis, KKK thugs and communists dedicated to destroying this country? Yeah must always protect the 'rights' of all those who want to either murder Americans, or blow us off the frigging map. What about our rights to protect this nation from enemies within and those overseas?

"You and Colonel K, however, want to launch into a referendum of loyalty which hinges on the racial views of the Radicals and Lincoln."

Radical what, Republicans? The founders of the party I belong to. I don't know what the hell you belong to, but nothing surprises me when it comes to neo-confederates - nada, nada, zip!

I terms of Lincoln, he was just a guy who happened to garnish more votes then your pro-slavery Confederate candidates, and Old Abe, after being pressured by his own GOP did indeed free men who your Confederates held in bondage. How do you feel now knowing the pack of criminals who invented a rouge régime, plunged this country into the worst domestic horror, ripping this land in two, for what? - the continuation of slavery and you damn well know it.

"I'm telling you: With respect to racial views, they were pigs, as is anyone who defends them."

Yet why is it then you and other neo-confederates always side with the Confederate régime over the United States government. You can't play this both ways. You're either for the Confederates 100% including all their devious goals, or you are not. There is no middle ground, no gray matter on this one. Free the slaves or keep them slaves, in bondage on the Confederate cotton plantations, one or the other. Your Confederates had every intent to increase profits via the backs of slaves, if they had overthrown the government in Washington.

Then there is another hero of the neo-confederate crowd, the murderer of President Lincoln, John Wilkes Booth. How any 'American' could cheer for a cold blooded killer of any President is beyond me and the majority of the American public.

In terms of the Republican party of the 1860's, the GOP represented freedom and liberty and does today. There is absolutely no room from those with either Nazi like, nor Klan viewpoints in today's GOP.

After you defending the 'political rights' of war criminals Davis & Stephens, not to mention their sick racial views concerning other Americans you ask me "So what now, Espinola? Where will you take us next?" Take a wild guess where you (not us) should go?

Let's see how long it takes before you pull your stoolie act again. Where I come from the lowest of the low is a rat.

931 posted on 10/10/2005 8:49:19 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is Never Free)
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