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We Shut Down the Bridge
Washington Times & UPI via NRO ^ | Sep. 9, 2005 | Shaun Waterman

Posted on 09/09/2005 11:06:37 AM PDT by hipaatwo

Think local officials are less to blame for deaths in New Orleans than federal officials? In the most jaw-dropping story of the week, UPI has the police chief of Gretna, Louisiana, admitting that he closed off one of the major arteries out of New Orleans on Monday, before the storm hit:

"We shut down the bridge," Arthur Lawson, chief of the City of Gretna Police Department, confirmed to United Press International, adding that his jurisdiction had been "a closed and secure location" since before the storm hit.

"All our people had evacuated and we locked the city down," he said. The bridge in question -- the Crescent City Connection -- is the major artery heading west out of New Orleans across the Mississippi River.


He added that the small town, which he called "a bedroom community" for the city of New Orleans, would have been overwhelmed by the influx. "There was no food, water or shelter" in Gretna City, Lawson said. "We did not have the wherewithal to deal with these people. If we had opened the bridge, our city would have looked like New Orleans does now: looted, burned and pillaged."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; govwatch; gretna; hurricanekatrina; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; leftistcrap; neworleans; nimby; selfdefense; suburbanvictims; urbanbarbarians; yellowsnowdog
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To: hipaatwo

Just get's deeper and deeper.

Total failure of leadership at the local level.


621 posted on 09/11/2005 9:04:20 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Nagin Cried, People died.)
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To: ohioWfan; rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker

Ping! to 618!


622 posted on 09/11/2005 9:06:07 AM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I'm not going to rehash all that I witnessed and experienced in this forum in the past week or so. We disagree and that's all I really have to say.


623 posted on 09/11/2005 9:06:26 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: GodBlessUSA
GB- I understand your point. I have been called lots of names in the time I have been posting here.

I have seen some of the nastiest games ever played- played out right before me on the computer- by the cruelest of people.

There was one week a couple of months ago I was called a *racial slur*, a stupid woman and a bigot in one thread.

I learned to move on from it. And seriously it did not even cause me to pause.

BTW- What is the alternative?

To have a mod come in and play nanny.

There are people in the world who say mean things- this fact should not be a surprise to any of us.

The internet is a breeding ground for venting and ranting- so , yes- some people will lash out- some people will even write things they would enver say or that they don't even really feel- so what?

It is just noise and on the internet is pretty easy to avoid it all together-scroll over it.

624 posted on 09/11/2005 9:12:55 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink sinks)
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To: cyborg
That is fine cy. Good people can disagree on things without it always being a "federal issue".
625 posted on 09/11/2005 9:35:09 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink sinks)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us; mhking; rdb3
I completely agree. I would like to be pinged to ANY thread where our FINEST FREEPERS are being demeaned by know nothing bigots.

I LOVE a good fight........especially against the ignorant and narrowminded creeps who hide in the shadows on this forum and rear their ugly heads on threads like this.

626 posted on 09/11/2005 9:59:56 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: cyborg
Good morning.

My wannabee Jedi grandson told me that "there must be a disturbance in the Force since everyone is so angry".

We are all feeling the hurt in this and 24/7 real time coverage feeds it. Fear and anger bring the dark things we all have hidden away in our subconscious to the surface and there are plenty of folks willing to use those dark things to cause harm.

Michael Frazier
627 posted on 09/11/2005 10:03:11 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: mhking; rdb3
If people don't want me here, then why should I stay?

The bozos don't speak for most of us, and they sure as hell don't speak for me.

Stick a finger in their eyes by sticking around.

628 posted on 09/11/2005 10:08:07 AM PDT by dighton
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To: mhking
I just saw your post.

Don't go, stick around.

We certainly need you and I would really miss your posts.

Ping me when you need someone to cover your back, I'll be there.

629 posted on 09/11/2005 10:22:54 AM PDT by SolidRedState (E Pluribus Funk --- (Latin taglines are sooooo cool! Don't ya think?))
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To: mhking

I know I'm late to this, we were camping.
But please don't leave. Please.

Ping me and I will smackdown anyone who is being crass to you.
Please. You're one of my heroes.


630 posted on 09/11/2005 10:58:41 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Prayers for victims of Katrina)
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To: mhking

Please stay. I'm too new and stupid to navigate without your ping list. Just crossing my fingers hoping that you will stay.


631 posted on 09/11/2005 11:16:32 AM PDT by voiceinthewind
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To: mhking
fwiw, i want you HERE on FR.

DO not let the HATERS, morons & arrogant lunatics drive you away!

SADLY, we have more than a few of each of those benighted creatures on FR.

they HATE conservative "persons of colour", like you & me, because we do not conform to their preconceived notions.

free dixie,sw

632 posted on 09/11/2005 11:17:48 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: mhking
Sorry to hear of your consternation, and it is understandable, even though I can not put myself into another's shoes.

With that said, even as the disaster unfolded. every Black leader I saw or heard who spoke out was not to plan for a helpful course of action in the aftermath. Their every utterance was made to blame Bush and every White person in America for the plight of the Blacks in NO. It was all the fault of Whites, even as the overwhelming color of those who were risking their own lives to rescue the Blacks, was White. I have not heard one word from the Black community to acknowledged such.

When under attack by Blacks, media and the left 24/7 for the past two weeks, some Whites have reacted to it. In such an emotionally charged atmosphere, one cannot be berated by the very ones being helped and turn ones cheek forever. It gets very hard to constantly endure getting suckered punched and attempting to put you on a guilt trip by screaming, it is all your fault. Such behavior is to say the least, unproductive for bringing Americans together.
633 posted on 09/11/2005 11:39:15 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
For example-I have said before that I thought the riots in NO, after the hurricane, were race riots- and that is what I believe there were.

Ok then, were the riots in Lansing a couple of years back "race riots"? What about the ones in Seattle and in San Fransisco? Or is it only a race riot when the participants are mostly black rather then mostly white?

I am trying to get people to stop swallowing the race baiting kool-aid served up by the MSM. But sadly it seems some here are gulping it down and holding out their cups for more.

634 posted on 09/11/2005 12:17:25 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Vote for the Constipation Party! They will never pass anything)
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To: mhking
Free Republic was supposed to be a sancturary for me; a place where I could come and converse intelligently with like-minded people. Not a place where I had to engage in the same kinds of battles I have to in the rest of the world.

That premise and vague promise of this site is belied by the spiteful and seemingly capricious bannings of witty and intelligent posters while narrow-minded mental midgets run roughshod over decent people.

There are other conservative forums and blogs to read and discuss where inane and shallow analysis can be more easily sidestepped.

It's a shame but I remind myself that I read this site for 5 years without signing up for a reason. Once registered and posting it's too easy to ignore unacceptable comments and behavior until one steps back and sees the big picture.

There was potential here, but smart and funny are no longer prized. Mean and stupid are welcomed with open arms.

I know you are welcomed elsewhere, Mike, so I know I'll be seeing you.

635 posted on 09/11/2005 12:29:50 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: mhking
You are one of the most important black conservatives in the country, and a huge asset for all of us at Free Republic. It would be an enormous loss if you left.

Every open-minded person regardless of race is appalled by what has happened in the aftermath of Katrina. Certainly there has been race baiting, but it has beed done by both whites AND blacks. This does not make it right, but it shows that there are still some stereotypes that linger in our society. And unfortunately situations like these bring them to the surface.

What people need to realize is that what happened in New Orleans is the result of decades of state and local authorities turning a blind eye to crime, and they ignored the situation because to do something about it would interfere with their own corruption. When people seek elective office to enrich themselves through graft rather than to serve, the entire society suffers. This does not excuse what the looters have done, but it did contribute to the conditions that sparked it.

If you leave, it will be a tremendous loss for us. We have had two events in the past six months that seemed to have driven a wedge between our members (Terri Schiavo was the other), but I think that in the end they prompt us to examine what we truly stand for and this makes us stronger. Soon this will also be behind us and we can learn from it.

636 posted on 09/11/2005 12:51:23 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us
mh, I for one would like to be pinged to every single thread where you are finding the need to defend yourself. It might be time to start dogpiling on individuals like this and running them out of town on a rail! This is pure BS!

Amen!

Please understand in every community with the population FR has increased to, is going to have it's share of idiots.

Amen again.

637 posted on 09/11/2005 12:53:33 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Well I don't know about those riots- I never said a thing about those riots. But a riot, where people are killing and raping other people based upon the color of their skin-is a race riot- "black on white or white on black".

That is what happened in NO, and that is what happened in LA.

If you have some evidence that mobs of "white folks" were at some time stealing clothing, TVs and booze. Burning down buildings,raping children and murdering people in a drug addicted haze and threatening to kill rescue workers trying to save people of their own skin color- at any period in history- please show me so I can condemn that and call that a race riot.

Now it is YOUR assumption that the terminology "race riots" means all "black folks are doing it", not mine. I never said anything close to that.

If you are trying to tell me that the majority of people rioting in NO were NOT dark skinned welfare recipients go ahead.

You may imply that I am a bigot for refusing to grant criminals sensitivity in riots - do it all you want- but I'm not a bigot- You can say it-and other websites , the one who hates freerepublic and revels in this thread, can go all giddy talking about what a bigot I am and we are at Freerepublic- but I am not- so nothing you or anyone says is going to make me feel bad about it or change my opinion of the situation.

I do,however, feel a certain responsibility for what has happened in NO- I was a social worker and I went to school for four years to learn how to perpetuate a welfare system and worked in a profession that has trashed our country more than anything else in history.

I even worked with some folks from Compton getting them easy work so they could get their checks, and who killed a "white" guy during the riots.

Why? Because he was white. I Have the blood stained memories still.

I am sorry about my involvement with trying to get Jesse Jackson elected and working for a very liberal-Democrat Congressman and now I see the damage. Welfare has ruined people's lives not the color of their skin- not the amount of pigmentation they have- not the country their ancestors came from.

So I feel pretty sensitive about what is going on with this myself-, so if someone says ...all those social workers and liberals ruined this country-look what they have done to the people of NO , look at what liberal idiots they are- I would know it was true.

The difference is I am not crying victim- I would rather spend my time trying to fix it.

638 posted on 09/11/2005 12:54:25 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink sinks)
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To: cyncooper
There was potential here, but smart and funny are no longer prized. Mean and stupid are welcomed with open arms.

That's a little overboard, don't you think?

639 posted on 09/11/2005 12:58:16 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: mhking
Because more people here value you and your opinions. Because, ultimately, you are among friends.
640 posted on 09/11/2005 1:05:47 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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