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To: Stultis
Thanks. I understand that and it's perfectically logical given current scientific understanding. However, what brought me to this thread in post 201 is the "Marcelo Gleiser, "Who Designed the Designer?" article.

Your last line illustrates the point I'm making;

Therefore evolutionary theory presupposes the existence of living organisms. Their existence is a boundary condition of the theory.

Someone who believes in creation would say it this way;

"Therefore creation theory presupposes the existence of a living creator. His existence is a boundary condition of the theory."

Without living organisms to start with the TOE is absolutely meaningless. This is why the Origin of LIfe Prize is so interesting. Someone is finally realising how important origin of life is to the TOE and openly addressing the issue. Whether or not it will change the boundries of the TOE or spawn an entirely new theory remains to be seen.

What do you think when you see the words,"The winning submission will likely provide both a novel and cardinal conceptual contribution to current biological science and information theory."?

352 posted on 09/08/2005 9:51:01 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman; snarks_when_bored
Without living organisms to start with the TOE is absolutely meaningless. This is why the Origin of LIfe Prize is so interesting. Someone is finally realising how important origin of life is to the TOE and openly addressing the issue. Whether or not it will change the boundries of the TOE or spawn an entirely new theory remains to be seen. What do you think when you see the words,"The winning submission will likely provide both a novel and cardinal conceptual contribution to current biological science and information theory."?

Isn't it obvious? The "winning anwser" will be "the Bible told me so".

Without living organisms to start with the TOE is absolutely meaningless. A silly and unsupportable assertion.

The TOE offers a very good understanding of why blood in mammals is all based on the same haemoglobin molecule. ID offers no explanation at all. TOE explains why fetal development is much the same in all mammals and vertebrates. ID says "God did it".

In view of the facts of similarities over many species, we might fairly conclude that the "intelligent designer" was lazy in using the same ideas over and over and over again. I mean, why use the same blood types again for humans and chimpanzees? A really good designer would learn from past mistakes.

359 posted on 09/08/2005 10:31:23 PM PDT by thomaswest
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