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LOL!

We live in an area chock full of Green, vegan, counter culturists. Every few years, they panic over something like the Pole Shift and hold meetings on survival. It always boils down to "save seeds", starting a newsletter and phone trees and demands to the small town and County officials to set up public shelters! Needless to say, the rural pols just stare at them and say:"What do you exactly expect us to do?"

Years ago, we attended one of these meetings out of curiosity. One guy just said he would spend any emergency period "in a ditch, keeping my head down."

Frankly, we have a plethora of corn fed deer and rabbits who spend their lives eating my garden. Much better than vegans, who probably taste somewhat like those awful soy-based sausages they resemble.

We have always found that waiting for others to get their act in gear is very hard on our BP. We have friends who are ranchers and farmers and we have a loose agreement of mutual support, mostly skills for fresh beef/pork/chickens. DH can fix, build or fabricate most anything in wood or metal and I keep a treadle sewing machine w/all the attachments besides being a feltmaker. Skills are as vital as goods, of course. We also have a large, thriving Amish community here and we are hearing news of 30-40 Chassidic families moving into a 200-300 acre area they purchased. There are a lot of self-suffient folks to trade with if/when TSHTF. The lefties will still be organizing committees to shift responsibility when whatever disaster hits.

However, most of us do not panic at the slightest whiff of a storm or something like Y2K. As someone posted in the past couple of days: it is about logistics. You ask HOW to get WHAT to WHERE and then calculate WHEN. Presupply and a decent, flexible plan obviates the need to spend years trying to do things via consensus. There will always be contingencies we neglected, so we have to stay alert.