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To: calcowgirl; FOG724; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ...
Honestly now... I can understand to some extent, those who have remained loyal to Arnold because they thought the CA Republican Party had a clue as to what it was doing and that maybe, possibly, Arnold would pull us through all this without doing irrepairable damage in the Liberalism Department.

However... Carry_Okie has summed-up the record in a brief, but unmistakeable summation of an absolutely devasting and failed record as Governor of CA by this confused and defeated man who I predict will NOT run for re-election.

If this happens, and I believe it will, based on Jesse Ventura's dropping out, we will not even have a Republican candidate for Governor as the Party forclosed ANY primary and has already endorsed Arnold prematurely!!!

Do you still think the CA Republican Party has ANY clue as to what it should be doing in your behalf? I didn't think so!!!

So now he's finally threating to raise taxes after borrowing the state's A$$ off anyway, to keep from cutting as he promised so many times

91 posted on 09/03/2005 10:09:30 AM PDT by SierraWasp (My Governor has morphed into the "FLINCHINATOR!!!")
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To: SierraWasp
I do not share your anxiety. I do share your conclusion that the Republican Party in California has drifted away from conservatism.

The Republican party in California has been listening to the press. The press says they're conservative so it must be so. Since they're conservative it's their duty to carry on the good fight without deference to the traditions of the party and without the guilt created by their betrayal to core principals. Conservative compared to what? This flawed comparative analysis is the undoing of the party. If the basis for comparison is that the opposition is liberal then the party would be vindicated. But the assumption isn't and they aren't. The problem is that the organized Democrat opposition in California is composed of far left, fringe, liberal cooks or single issue, ideologues who have found shelter under the Democrat Party umbrella.

The result of this flawed analysis is that since Pete Wilson and Arnold Schwarzenegger are more conservative than their Democrat counterparts, then they must be conservative.

From a rational analysis of their actions Wilson was a moderate and Schwarzenegger is a liberal. What complicates the matter for the party faithful is that both men are politicians and both men used the bloody pulpit to shape a persona that deceives to pander. Of the two Schwarzenegger is the most deceitful. While Schwarzenegger pitches a conservative agenda, his actions are right out of the liberal handbook; taxes, spending, borrowing, redistribution of wealth to create an artificial consumer class beholden to government (government employees and public largess recipients).

Wasp, whether Schwarzenegger runs or not, the results will be the same. The electorate will have two choices. A far left, fringe liberal or a traditional liberal. The party registration will make little difference to conservatives. How often have we heard the Republican Party shills on this forum repeat over and over principals don't matter; winning matters.

I offer this multi-billion dollar, anecdotal scenario to emphasize my point

1) In the mid 1990s Wilson subsidized the in-lieu-of vehicle tax from the General Fund (principally income taxes). A classic, liberal redistribution of wealth scheme which didn't reduce the tax, it simply shifted the tax account from which he took the monies.
2) In 2003 Davis dropped the subsidy. Ultra ($4B) liberal because he diverted the savings to other government expenses and effectively raised the tax rate.
3) Schwarzenegger immediately, after taking office, reinstates the subsidy. Back to the old liberal shell game. No decrease in taxes collected but he looks good to his Republican base. He then quickly convinces the electorate to borrow the money to make up for the $4B shortfall this tested, liberal, shell game created.

92 posted on 09/03/2005 1:18:55 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: SierraWasp

Liberalism is the enemy.
If one looks at the actions they would see a Trojan horse.
Instead, some find solace in a Name(R).


101 posted on 09/03/2005 3:03:18 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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