Posted on 09/01/2005 10:47:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch
Reading the threads on FR lately has been discouraging.
It appears that everyone is searching for someone to blame. Thankfully, to many FReepers, the local officials are Democrats.
May I ask one question? Would you refuse aid to someone in need from the catastrophic hurricane and subsequent flooding to an Independent or a Democrat?
Is someone's political affiliation reason to question their intelligence regarding natural catastrophes? Or whether they deserve your financial assistance in this time of need?
I don't recall Christ saying anything about politics determining whether to assist people in need. I think this is a time for everyone to pull together. Please shut your eyes to a persons ethnicity, skin color, religion or political affiliations.
We are looking at Americans in need here, not illegal aliens. Yes, there is some looting going on but I do think the majority of people are just attempting to survive. The other ones will pay their dues in days to come, of that I'm certain.
So, if you have any ideas on how to make this recovery more efficient would you mind sharing your ideas? I will forward the entire thread to a few Congressmen for their perusal. Hopefully they will forward your ideas on to the officials in charge.
Whose fault was it and how do we fix it?
Not going to touch "whose fault is it", but I can answer how do we fix it: Second Chronicles 7:14 and Malachi 3:8-12
A person's political affiliation is incidental. I am curious as to your purpose in posing the question.
Who was first to place blame and start complaining?
I agree with you, lastchance. And these particular politicans will be using the same notions of "entitlement" and "victimization" when blaming the feds for their own inept behavior.
I am hoping that this is a wake up call to the responsible blacks in cities across the country.... that leaders will spring up in every poor community to encourage their neighbors to assume responsibility for evacuation plans, survival plans, and ethical behavior in crisis situations.
It is folly to depend on politicians in situations of such dire emergencies. We must insist that all elected officials refrain from promising that which can not be delivered. If and when they do this, we must demand that the MSM call them out and nail them to the wall.
True political leaders tell the truth to people, and encourage them to do for themselves. To do otherwise is a crime, in my opinion. These poor people in NO should demand the hides of the mayor and the governor, and all below them in the chain of command for depriving them of the truth regarding this storm.
The vast majority of Republican elected officials are simply acting as custodians of the welfare state set up by Democrats. Some are actually expanding it. Only a tiny minority are trying to shrink it.
Watching the coverage on Fox is maddening. Why the police can't even communicate with the wandering survivors, particularly on that causeway where thousands are huddled and patrol cars pass by regularly...!!! And listening to the Dem pols whine about their broken hearts and make dire predictions of "thousands of dead" while behaving as if they are paralyzed...!!!
Some of the GOP congresscritters haven't been too useful, either, but the chief pols in LA are Dems. And a lot of the GOP in LA are recent converts from the DNC.
I actually wish Brieux (sp?) was still around.
I have no idea who first. Is that something to be proud of? Whomever initially started the foolishness of attempting to place blame is braindead. I will attempt to make that determination when everone is safe and sound.
When all the old folks have their needed medications again, when the women feel secure again, when the children are laughing again, that will be the time to see if punishment or praises should be doled out to the political leaders.
Facts are facts regardless of which party is in power. Fact one: the levies weren't strong enough
Fact two: they not only didn't force people to leave they did the stupid thing of putting 25,000 of them in the superdome
Fact three: we are the richest country in the world and we have dead bodies floating in the muck
Shameful for everyone in my estimation!
"This is a bizarre question. This is not happening."
no, that is not as bizarre as it seems. Last night I read a post where a FReeper said she/he would not give a dime to the recovery efforts and much of the post reflected anti other political party.
In my mind, the barrier islands (gone now) need to be replaced/rebuilt before another hurricane comes down the pike and this whole mess is relived. Those natural structures have been dwindling for decades, and they were the primary defense between ocean and land to fend of tidal and storm surges. If they cannot or should not be fixed, don't rebuild. This will only happen again. I don't beleive any levee system could have prevented this particular storm from wreaking havoc on the 90,000 sq mile area affected. Don't fool with Mother Nature. The gulf coast area will never be protectable from something like Katrina.
The great thing about America is that you will never be forced to remain within our borders. If you know of a country that you think is better, I will buy your flight ticket on the condition that you never return.
I don't know why is should take years. For at least 300 years, since the founding of the city, every civil engineer who has looked at NO has predicted this very event. It's pretty obvious. You've got a city built in a mashy hole surrounded on all four sides by water 9 feet higher than the city water table. Going back at least 50 years there have been several studies concluding that NO was the most likely spot in country for a cataclysmic natural disaster. What went wrong was that for decades everyone concerned has ignored the problem until the big one finally hit.
Nothing has happened to us that even approachs this hurricane in the past 50 years. The officials are just learning how this civilian generation reacts to disastophe.
Did you know that looting would be widespread be it hit land? I didn't.
Time to pull out and leave behind new born babies, old ladies, the sick and fragile? Quite a man you are!
Oh, not why the city flooded. Why the disaster planning and initial response were so piss-poor.
Understood now. Thank you for the clarification.
It stands to reason. I knew the Superdome was going to be hell within 24 hours and hell cubed within 72 hours. I knew not figuring out how to evacuate those without cars were gonna leave the poorest people in the city with few supplies. And it stands to reason that some folks would loot to survive and others would take advantage of the situation to loot and steal drugs and alcohol and run wild.
The continual wildcard in all this is the horrific lack of adequate disaster planning before the storm arrived.
"I am curious as to your purpose in posing the question."
I am fed up with reading variations of "Bush is at fault". I realize this is a sarcastic post, but I am fed up with reading it on a conservative website. There are many other forums where I can go to read it and the poster is thinking they are being truthful.
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