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Whose fault was it? How do we fix it?
na ^ | 9/1/2005 | self

Posted on 09/01/2005 10:47:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch

Reading the threads on FR lately has been discouraging.

It appears that everyone is searching for someone to blame. Thankfully, to many FReepers, the local officials are Democrats.

May I ask one question? Would you refuse aid to someone in need from the catastrophic hurricane and subsequent flooding to an Independent or a Democrat?

Is someone's political affiliation reason to question their intelligence regarding natural catastrophes? Or whether they deserve your financial assistance in this time of need?

I don't recall Christ saying anything about politics determining whether to assist people in need. I think this is a time for everyone to pull together. Please shut your eyes to a persons ethnicity, skin color, religion or political affiliations.

We are looking at Americans in need here, not illegal aliens. Yes, there is some looting going on but I do think the majority of people are just attempting to survive. The other ones will pay their dues in days to come, of that I'm certain.

So, if you have any ideas on how to make this recovery more efficient would you mind sharing your ideas? I will forward the entire thread to a few Congressmen for their perusal. Hopefully they will forward your ideas on to the officials in charge.


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To: Matchett-PI

Excellent comments and research!


101 posted on 09/01/2005 9:43:23 PM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: Motherbear

Thousands and thousands more could have been moved out if they really wanted to move them out.


That says it all but is now the time to decide who is to blame? I would rather start the planning for a logical rebuilding.


102 posted on 09/01/2005 9:45:01 PM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: B4Ranch

blame mother nature and deal with it and stop slammen the people trying to deal with it!


103 posted on 09/01/2005 9:45:26 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: B4Ranch

I absolutely agree.

But the grammar police need to rap my knuckles tonight. Sheesh!


104 posted on 09/01/2005 9:52:59 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: ezoeni

If placing blame is your idea of how to deal with it perhaps you need to talk to the victims who haven't eaten in two days.


105 posted on 09/01/2005 10:49:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: B4Ranch

If I had a choice between the illegals or the thugs of NOLA, I would simply go out of business.


106 posted on 09/01/2005 10:52:03 PM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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To: B4Ranch

It's mother natures fault but if the RATS want to play the blame game they own the state of LA politically.


107 posted on 09/01/2005 10:53:37 PM PDT by John Lenin (Liberalism: Where shame is a virtue)
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To: Matchett-PI

I spent the 25 years managing businesses in highly competitive and fluid environments – the last one for 53 consecutive quarters in the black in on of the toughest environments of all, a smaller organization developing and selling big ticket systems to F500 and governmental MIS in competition with the likes of IBM and HP.

In that job I met and worked with management in around 50 such organization, some well run and thriving, some being poorly managed down the road to extinction.

And in my judgment what we are looking at in the case of this administration is a classic sort of organizational incompetence characterized by an in-over-his head CEO who, along with his chosen advisors, is disinterested or even actively hostile to recognition of the realties under which the organization is operating.

And what you have in that article above is a classic response with such situations: denial - which in such situations always eventual ends up in the same place, “The customers are so stupid they don’t even know what’s good for them.”

This judgment doesn’t have anything to do with ideology – you think I want Hillary Clinton as President?

It’s just the way I see it based on personal experience.

And to me that’s very, very scary.


108 posted on 09/02/2005 5:16:52 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Motherbear

Another voice to save lives is more important than who caused the problems.

Dammit Folks, we have Americans dying in New orleans and you piss and moan about whose fault this is. Quit worrying whose fault it is until these people are all safe!


110 posted on 09/02/2005 6:48:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: Motherbear

I am starting to think that you folks need some close relatives who are stuck in the mess to give you something serious to think about.


112 posted on 09/02/2005 7:12:07 AM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: Motherbear

What would you be saying today if they were still in New Orleans, perhaps on their rooftop?

Would you still be worried about what the Libs are saying or would you want assistance to get in to help them?

Have you called your Congressman yet to say that the aid we are seeing is 110% UNACCEPTABLE?


114 posted on 09/02/2005 7:43:00 AM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
"...what you have in that article above is a classic response with such situations: denial - which in such situations always eventual ends up in the same place, “The customers are so stupid they don’t even know what’s good for them.” This judgment doesn’t have anything to do with ideology – you think I want Hillary Clinton as President? It’s just the way I see it based on personal experience. And to me that’s very, very scary."

It is laughable to see negative, namby-pambys --- who don't have the facts and are, themselves, in denial when confronted with them --- accusing fact-providers of being in denial.

I'd bet my bottom dollar that you also thought Ronald Reagan was in over his head, too, didn't you. You sound like a Pat Buchannan supporter, to me.

You also sound like a know-it-all micro-manager. They are the only ones who get "scared" when they can't have control over everyone and everything.

Fearful "Monday-morning quarterbacks" usually descend into total irrationality when people ignore their efforts to get them to believe that if "they" were in charge, everything would have been done "right". bttt

116 posted on 09/02/2005 8:23:58 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind'. Albert Einstein)
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To: Matchett-PI
Here's an objective test of whether this administration is the sort of dysfunctional organization I’m describing:

Six months from month from now will anyone have been held responsible for the many obvious failures and misjudgments which attending this disaster, and have suffered the consequences?

Or will the people at the top be slapping each other on the back, issuing press releases about what a great job they did, and handing out awards and promotions to some of those responsible for the worst decisions while dead-ending the careers of others who are candid about shortcomings and failures?
117 posted on 09/03/2005 5:54:11 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: B4Ranch

.....Would you refuse aid to someone in need from the catastrophic hurricane and subsequent flooding to an Independent or a Democrat.....

What if the event was an earthquake in San Francisco?

Probably. I favor the elimination of that culture.

In New Orleans/Mississippi of course not.


118 posted on 09/03/2005 6:01:57 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . The wild winds of fortune will carry us onward)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Your CEO analogy is bogus, because a President cannot choose the Governor, like a CEO can choose a division manager. He's stuck with who the people voted for in that state.


119 posted on 09/03/2005 6:09:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bert

The East side of the French Quarter caters to queers.


120 posted on 09/03/2005 8:27:06 AM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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