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Trapped in an Arena of Suffering
LA Times ^ | 9/1/05 | Scott Gold

Posted on 09/01/2005 6:56:22 AM PDT by Brian Mosely

NEW ORLEANS — A 2-year-old girl slept in a pool of urine. Crack vials littered a restroom. Blood stained the walls next to vending machines smashed by teenagers.

The Louisiana Superdome, once a mighty testament to architecture and ingenuity, became the biggest storm shelter in New Orleans the day before Katrina's arrival Monday. About 16,000 people eventually settled in.

By Wednesday, it had degenerated into horror. A few hundred people were evacuated from the arena Wednesday, and buses will take away the vast majority of refugees today.

"We pee on the floor. We are like animals," said Taffany Smith, 25, as she cradled her 3-week-old son, Terry. In her right hand she carried a half-full bottle of formula provided by rescuers. Baby supplies are running low; one mother said she was given two diapers and told to scrape them off when they got dirty and use them again.

At least two people, including a child, have been raped. At least three people have died, including one man who jumped 50 feet to his death, saying he had nothing left to live for.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; superdome
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To: Brian Mosely
What are they going to do with the Superdome _after_ this is all over?

Tear it down?

Worth rebuilding?

- John

121 posted on 09/01/2005 8:14:49 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Hildy
Some Freepers make it sound like they deserve what is happening.

As shocking as it might be, I think some Freepers believe that the people who are suffering like this deserve what they are getting because they are poor, uneducated and (mostly) black.

And let's not forget the Bible-thumpers who believe this is some sort of divine retribution for the drinking and bare breasts on Bourbon Street.

122 posted on 09/01/2005 8:15:11 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: oldbrowser

I doubt an unemployment check would help many people get back on their feet after being wiped out. It probably would barely pay for a motel and food, much less their bills. It's truly tragic.


123 posted on 09/01/2005 8:15:16 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Brian Mosely
Stories like this are going to make people think twice before they evacuate to shelters if this is what conditions can degenerate into. I know people who are running it are winging it, and I'm not pointing fingers of blame. Horrible choice to have to make.

My family was recently on a family farm 50 miles from a major urban area. It was sooooo quiet, and there isn't a whole lot for people to do entertainment-wise, but there are compensations, and community life is flourishing.

My son remarked to me more than once, "Mom, I couldn't live like this. I like blank, blank" (amenities and more creature comforts).

I think after seeing this and some other things (he is still in his thirties, he might change his views, maybe when it is too late).

124 posted on 09/01/2005 8:16:43 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Modernman

There seems to be a lot of that going around...


125 posted on 09/01/2005 8:16:52 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Modernman

It's why we'll never be taken totally seriously as a true Conservative voice.


126 posted on 09/01/2005 8:17:12 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The turn to the NE was forecasted. But I see what you are saying. The idiots in the medio sounding an all clear are just as to blame as the OEM guys and mayor of New Orleans, Their lack of preperation and response has been criminal.


127 posted on 09/01/2005 8:19:22 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Weren't the people directed to the Superdome? They just didn't rally there. It was a designated shelter...


128 posted on 09/01/2005 8:20:22 AM PDT by carton253 (It's better to have a gun and not need it than not have a gun and need it.)
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To: RushCrush
WARNED REPEATEDLY and GIVEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY

If you have no car and no money and perhaps NO RADIO to hear the warnings...would it then "compute" to you?

129 posted on 09/01/2005 8:21:37 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

When were Busses offering to take people out and where were they going?


130 posted on 09/01/2005 8:22:13 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: stuartcr

Nothing like Monday morning is there...


131 posted on 09/01/2005 8:22:22 AM PDT by carton253 (It's better to have a gun and not need it than not have a gun and need it.)
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To: Hildy

I live in a coastal area, and we've had gobs of hurricane warnings. We've yet to get more than some high winds a few downed trees. So honestly, for lots, you just kinda turn a deaf ear and say 'whatever'.

The last evacuation was such a nightmare, that if they call another, I don't think ANYONE will budge.

Me? I will never evacuate again. Ever. I know my limits, and I'd rather die in a storm or even of stravation/thirst than to ever go through it again.


132 posted on 09/01/2005 8:24:07 AM PDT by najida (I run with scissors and I don't play well with others.)
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To: RushCrush

It especially doesn't compute for people who have available transportation, as most of those people probably did. Just look at the pictures of all of the submerged cars. None of those cars should have been there. Their owners and the owners' family members should have been in them heading north along with the tens of thousands of other people who heeded the warnings. Then the rescue efforts could have been directed at the truly needy and infirm who were genuinely unable to escape without assistance.


133 posted on 09/01/2005 8:24:17 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: sneakers
I realize that many of these people have, long ago, lost the will to do for themselves because the government has taken care of them.

Exactly.

No wonder they can't/won't think for themselves & have no ambition to get jobs, get out from under the government.

Why work when you don't have to?

There are generations that have lived off the government.

134 posted on 09/01/2005 8:24:32 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Dawgreg
Lord help me. I don't mean to sound cold or indifferent, but these people are ALIVE, fcol! People risked their lives to save them.....time for them to try and make the best of a bad situation.......first of all by getting that poor baby out of that urine! Damn!

ROFLMAO!!!! Whining Freepers saying they would make the best of the situation. SO disingenuous. You have no idea what it's like for these people. I'm so sick of Freepers blaming these people.

135 posted on 09/01/2005 8:25:25 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: finnman69

give it 2 more days


136 posted on 09/01/2005 8:25:57 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: Hildy

So you're saying that these people had zero idea that a hurricane was heading their way?


137 posted on 09/01/2005 8:26:52 AM PDT by RushCrush (When will Clinton come back from his vacation in Hawaii?)
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To: varyouga

And the worst part is, if you have taken care of these people for more than 50 years, why fail them now when they need you the most? Don't let this be the point in time when you say "hey you are on your own." It's one week before the check comes and some did not have money and actually though the government would look out for them. The mayor had no plan, the governor had no plan, The police had no plan. heck they didn't even create a strategy to deal with looters. Which believe it or not, are not uncommon in disasters. The police reported they didn't even fill up all of the police cars with gas before the hurricane hit.


138 posted on 09/01/2005 8:29:39 AM PDT by rave123
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To: RushCrush

No, I'm saying people stay for a variety of reasons. How many times in the past two years has a warning been issued and it turned out to be no big deal. If you've lived in your home for 30 years, you'd be reluctant to leave, its all you have. that's human nature. And, quite obviously, nobody thought it would be this bad with the flooding. They talked about a HURRICANE, not this kind of flooding. And many of these people have NO MONEY. So they were bussing people, but were they putting them up before the storm? I think the State did a worse job than the people.


139 posted on 09/01/2005 8:30:03 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: Brian Mosely

Possible untold thousands dead, and the MSM concentrates upon those who are uncomfortable. Yet ignores the fact they are the lucky ones to be alive and not amongst the dead.


140 posted on 09/01/2005 8:30:37 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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