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NEW ORLEANS. IT'S WORSE THAN YOU ARE HEARING!
WWL Television in New Orleans, LA ^ | Aug 29, 2005 | none

Posted on 08/30/2005 8:03:13 AM PDT by alligator

The attached is a video from WWL TV in New Orleans. The mayor of New Orleans gives a very detailed report of the condition of the city. As bad as the national news is painting the picture, it falls short of the devastation that has occurred.

There are 8 refineries located in the New Orleans to Mobile areas. Nearly 1/2 of all the gasoline in the country is refined here. These are all shut down, and they don't know for how long. Even if they were capable of running the refineries, there will be a huge shortage of workers as they have evacuated. All of Metarie, Slidell, Mandeville, Kenner, etc is under water and there is no place for them to come home to. Large oil super tankers will not be able to off load to the refineries even if they could run. The pipelines and transport facilities are all in jeopardy.

The New Orleans port and the Mississippi River structure carries nealy 1/4th of the entire countries goods and equipment. The export and import of goods will cease for a long period of time. Fill up your tanks, stock up your goods. Prices will be rising

http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=www.wwltv.com/082905mayor.wmv


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: damage; devastation; floods; hurricane; katrina; levee; louisiana; newoleans; neworleans; rescue; wereallgonnadie
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To: Double Tap

Somebody else said that this would be a golden opportunity for Bush to simply declare that there was a national emergency, that programs would be designed immediately - and implemented ASAP - to find and produce oil domestically, build new refineries, build nuke power plants, etc. - and just let the Dems howl.

Supposedly the oil transport/pumping/refinery system in LA was not as badly damaged as they expected, but it still gave us a glimpse of what might happen if we don't act now.

Sadly, I think Bush will try to go in and build "consensus" with the Dems, which of course will never happen, rather than striking while the iron is hot and he would probably have public support.


181 posted on 08/30/2005 11:01:53 AM PDT by livius
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To: JoeSixPack1

Man..I wouldn't slap Bruce Lee even when dead all these years. He might get up and kick my Ozark A**.


182 posted on 08/30/2005 11:04:54 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: hedgetrimmer

Well you might ask Senator Mary Landrieu about that. Her father Moon (former NO mayor) bears a lot of responsibility there. However, the time to throw stones is not here yet.


183 posted on 08/30/2005 11:09:49 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Let me guess. The freaked out marine in the film Aliens? That scene got Bill Paxton's whole film career started.
184 posted on 08/30/2005 11:09:58 AM PDT by katana
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To: alligator

Watching a pickup full of people traveling in deep water....why don't they get dump trucks in there to haul people to safety?


185 posted on 08/30/2005 11:11:36 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

The voters of New Orleans are Democrat fools. It is not the voters or elected officials of N.O. that will save the city. It is the people of the city that run the businesses, in oil, shipping and tourism, along with the US Army and our President that will save the city. New Orleans is just a couple of steps alongside Detroit as a failed liberal city. Its strength is the folks that are the real movers and shakers, and I can assure you it is not the Mayor and his cronies.


186 posted on 08/30/2005 11:12:26 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: katana
That scene got Bill Paxton's whole film career started.

Nawwww I think it was his roll in Weird Science as Chet.

187 posted on 08/30/2005 11:13:00 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: greccogirl

Because he's from a long line of idiot NO mayors.


188 posted on 08/30/2005 11:14:51 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: PAR35; alligator

Care to list the 8 refineries you are counting? I looked at this PDF list and couldn't come up with that many: http://www.epa.gov/ttn/chief/le/benzene/benz_apb.pdf

I count Belle Chasse and Chalmette in New Orleans, one in Mobile, and one in Pascagoula.

There are about 148 or 149 refineries in the country.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/usa.html

As far as 'imports and exports will cease' - there just isn't any truth to that. The river isn't blocked. Cargo will be re-routed around New Orleans. Jacksonville, Savannah, Houston and smaller ports will pick up the slack. Transport costs will increase slightly. CSX and NS should do quite well. CN, KSC, BNSF and SP should also benefit.


189 posted on 08/30/2005 11:15:03 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: ARCADIA
Whether it is war, the economy, our divided politics, NASA blunders, or now natural disasters

This may seem a trivial point, but with the exception of NASA, all of these problems were present on a much bigger scale in the 1930s and 1940s. The Dust Bowl? The 1938 hurricane that hit the east coast?
190 posted on 08/30/2005 11:15:24 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: OXENinFLA

We'ree going to incur a cost of billions of dollars, that's what WE'RE going to do.


191 posted on 08/30/2005 11:17:54 AM PDT by bigsigh
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To: alligator

I'm not the kind of person to tell you "I told you so", but, if I was I would............


192 posted on 08/30/2005 11:18:46 AM PDT by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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To: alligator

Let's just wait and see when the rest of the world or that irrelavent body of the UN comes to America's assistance - or even who offers aid or relief..

We're more likely to find more help under the floodwaters of Katrina.


193 posted on 08/30/2005 11:19:16 AM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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To: PAR35

Most I know of are west of NO, in the "Golden Triangle".

Someone more knowledgeable than I can elaborate or refute that matter, but we're not all dead yet. We're just squoze harder.


194 posted on 08/30/2005 11:23:57 AM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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To: Guenevere

Agree with what you are saying - I share your anger at the LA gov and mayor but will stifle it for now. They are both waaaay out of their element in so many ways - they need to move aside and let the professionals handle it. Watching the Coast Guard rescuing a family from a roof right now. Thank God for such men.


195 posted on 08/30/2005 11:24:54 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: OXENinFLA
You may well be right but the only thing I remember from Weird Science is Kelly LeBrock. The Chet Donnelly/Bill Paxton character just didn't make quite the same impression.
196 posted on 08/30/2005 11:25:45 AM PDT by katana
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To: alligator

LA, like TX, has been been badmouthed for years about how polluted it is and what poor environmentalist they are.

Gasoline is in short supply or will be and it would deserve the bashers well if LA said screw your gas, we're taking care of our own first. No further exports to Blue States!


197 posted on 08/30/2005 11:26:13 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: alligator

send in Rudy.


198 posted on 08/30/2005 11:48:24 AM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: azhenfud

Yes, most of the Louisiana refineries are west of New Orleans. Mississippi has several away from the coast, as does Alabama. There are many refineries across Texas and Okalhoma, California has some, and there are some in places that you would never think of.

The big questions are how long the LOOP will be offline and whether there are problems bringing in the offshore oil. Most of the platforms themselves should be coming back by the end of the week if they can get the crews together. (Most were west of the storm's path).

I'm still predicting a sharp break in oil prices, although the timing will be delayed by this storm.


199 posted on 08/30/2005 11:50:14 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: alligator; A. Pole; ninenot; neutrino; snowsislander; oceanview
Considering how many people have been warning about this, why would we allow 8 refineries to be co-located and on top of this, in a port city that is BELOW the sea level. Gads, this could be like a tackler slapping the economy from a blind spot.

I'm hoping gas doesn't hit $3.50/gallon.

200 posted on 08/30/2005 11:51:35 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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