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Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Various ^ | 30 August 2005

Posted on 08/30/2005 6:51:27 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Catastrophic damage occurred to Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama as a result of Hurricane Katrina. Major bridges are destroyed. Mobile AL suffered its worst flooding in 90 years. In New Orleans, a large section of concrete levee broke last night. Water continues to rise, threatening, among many things, Tulane Hospital with 1000 patients. New Orleans officials: Do not attempt to return to the city at this time if you evacuated. It is too dangerous.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula

Gulfport News via Topix.net WAFB Baton Rouge

Slidell, Mandeville, and Covington Updates Warning: website is overloaded due to heavy traffic

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; livehurricanekatrina; prayanddonate; tropical
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To: dirtboy
And if fires break out, it's over.

Are you seeing this video?

Fires breaking out all over the place.

301 posted on 08/30/2005 8:00:39 AM PDT by andyandval
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To: shatcher; Admin Moderator

Admin moderator, we have a request for specific threads in #295. Would that be possible?


302 posted on 08/30/2005 8:00:41 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Dies irae, dies illa....Rex tremendae majestatis, qui salvandos salvas gratis, salva me!)
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To: XRdsRev; All

I was preparing to take my boat to Bound Brook to work for S&R but was unable to get to a launch point. I went to work 2 days later to find porta-potties, bottled water, limited phone service and limited accessibility around the area.


303 posted on 08/30/2005 8:01:00 AM PDT by olde north church
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To: NautiNurse

For any with fly or friends in the Algiers area...

Tall Timbers area, Momus Drive area... word has gotten out of there that they are safe. Not much damage but surrounded by water. They want people to know they are alright.


304 posted on 08/30/2005 8:01:11 AM PDT by LibSnubber (Lafayette, LA........PRAYER AGAINST STORMS on my homepage)
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To: NautiNurse; All
DONATION NUMBERS:

1-800-Help-Now Salvation Army
1-800-436-6348 Operation Blessings
1-800-344-8070 Harvest Now (?)

Numbers from CNN, not sure if I got the name of the 3rd organization right.....also posted on CNN site

305 posted on 08/30/2005 8:01:24 AM PDT by apackof2 (In my simple way, I guess you could say I'm living in the BIG TIME)
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To: texaslil

spot on. The scope of this is such that doing anything to fix anything is gonna take a long time. *sigh*


306 posted on 08/30/2005 8:01:34 AM PDT by alancarp ((Piedmont of NCarolina))
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To: Peach
Shep Smith: "They don't know why the water is rising, and it won't stop."

What a freakin' moron. The water is rising in New Orleans because water flows to the lowest point possible, and the city is below the level of the adjacent Lake Ponchartrain. The water from the lake is going to keep flowing into the city until the water level in the city is the same as the water level in the lake.

I don't think you need to be an engineer to understand some very basic elements of fluid mechanics. If Shep would just go home and try to fill the north half of his bathtub, he'd understand what the hell is going on in New Orleans right now.

307 posted on 08/30/2005 8:02:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: pamlet

It was a small story, a metaphor, for all the loss to come.


308 posted on 08/30/2005 8:03:08 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Alberta's Child
If Shep would just go home and try to fill the north half of his bathtub, he'd understand what the hell is going on in New Orleans right now.

LOL!

309 posted on 08/30/2005 8:03:42 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Dies irae, dies illa....Rex tremendae majestatis, qui salvandos salvas gratis, salva me!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I hope people in the drier parts of NO yesterday didnt get complacent and get caught in these floods.


310 posted on 08/30/2005 8:03:42 AM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: bwteim
Talk about a parasitic that was add obviously played during a time of disaster to reach a larger audience. CNN is gone as much as I dislike BQ.

mc
311 posted on 08/30/2005 8:03:44 AM PDT by mcshot (Boldly going nowhere with a smile and appreciation for life.)
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To: andyandval
Fires breaking out all over the place.

Mother of God. Fires will burn whole blocks down to the flood water line. And if anyone is in those buildings, they will have to get underwater to get out - and will be caught in deep water with fires raging around them.

312 posted on 08/30/2005 8:03:47 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: HankReardon

Part of the problem with the crisis in this disaster is the corrupt politics that went on for years. There was no adequate disaster planning. The democrats in charge, had no plan. This needs to be hammered home every chance we get. Their lack of planning has caused many to die. Their lack of leadership is criminal.


313 posted on 08/30/2005 8:03:57 AM PDT by CajunConservative (Southwest Louisiana)
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To: cajungirl

wwltv.com webcast is saying if people are in metro new orleans area to leave from rising water .. they do no know where its coming from ???????????


314 posted on 08/30/2005 8:04:04 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: Alberta's Child

bump


315 posted on 08/30/2005 8:04:06 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: conserv371
We must prepare for what lies ahead.

Good grief. No, we must help those who have lost everything. Don't you know you'll gain your own life by losing it for someone else?

Please take the apocalyptic preaching elsewhere.

316 posted on 08/30/2005 8:04:09 AM PDT by sinkspur (We who have been given much must help those who now have nothing.)
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To: r9etb

"No guarantees, but I expect this will not be addressed until the water levels balance on both sides.
Not only is the repair orders of magnitude easier when the flow stops, but I simply doubt the
resources are in place now, or that they will be before water levels equalize.

""Undoubtedly correct, and a ghastly prospect. There's going to be feet of water in those areas for weeks
or months.""

This is the start of a long day. A quiet rise in water in New Orleans may not be the worst news we get. The "dodged a bullet" crowd is in for a rude surprise, actually a number of them. Levees fail late just as often as they do early, the earth turns to soup as time goes by and tiny trickles find cracks and become torrents.

I am happy with the rate of water rise in New Orleans. A wall of water ruins foundations. A slow unstoppable rise weakens other sections of levee while there's still a "head" water level differential on the two sides, which can lead to a wall of water scenario.

This way the kinetic damage stays to a minimum. The best case scenario for New Orleans now is for the head to equalize as quickly as possible, short of a rate which undermines foundations.


317 posted on 08/30/2005 8:04:37 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: bwteim

placemark.


318 posted on 08/30/2005 8:05:04 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: jeffers
Sealing a flowing levee breach is a very tough job.

Could you explain briefly what is involved in the repair, say now versus post-flooding? At what point could it start?

It's on-topic enough I think.

319 posted on 08/30/2005 8:05:19 AM PDT by technochick99 (firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: proudofthesouth

They got alot of water from little lagoon and big lagoon that closed off 59so. Minor structrual damage.


320 posted on 08/30/2005 8:05:22 AM PDT by cksharks (ew prayers for them because they will need it.)
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