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Xtreme Defense
The Washington Post ^ | Aug. 28, 2005 | Sharon Weinberger

Posted on 08/28/2005 8:27:29 PM PDT by arrow525

This is an an excerpt from an article on the Pentagon's use of nonlethal weapons.

www.washingtonpost.com

Xtreme Defense

Lightning guns, heat rays, weapons that can make you hear the voice of God. This is what happens when the war on terror meets the entrepreneurial spirit By Sharon Weinberger Sunday, August 28, 2005; W18 "This is very clandestine," Pete Bitar whispered, as his red Dodge Caravan idled in the parking lot of a Burger King near Fort Belvoir. "They called last week, and they wanted delivery this week." It did feel a little clandestine, if a bit unlikely. Yet there, in the Burger King parking lot, a small transaction in America's war on terror was about to take place.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Technical; US: Indiana; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: military; nonlethal; pentagon; terror; war; weapons

1 posted on 08/28/2005 8:27:30 PM PDT by arrow525
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To: arrow525

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The 1st M-16's / Vietnam-1965

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
(See 1st Photo)

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2 posted on 08/28/2005 8:30:49 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: arrow525; Boyd; xzins

Interesting.

An early FReeper named Boyd used to say whatever we see now of weaponry was developed and perfected 20 years ago.

Imagine what they've got now that they're not telling us.


3 posted on 08/28/2005 8:33:51 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: arrow525
weapons that can make you hear the voice of God.

That sounds like what me need. Our adversaries have been listening to Satan for some time now.

4 posted on 08/28/2005 8:34:34 PM PDT by oyez
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Your photo w/ Ted Kennedy cracks me up every time I see it!

I've been wondering about the story behind it. Care to tell?


5 posted on 08/28/2005 8:45:52 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az

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In October 1965 a young Sentaor TED KENNEDY, before he went a bit off the deep end, toured Vietnam with other members of Congress to assess how our offensive Military operations were affecting Vietnam's War Refugee population.

One of the members of his Congressional junket was from California, as am I, so I was thus picked to be one of those Soldiers who greeted them at our 1st Air Cavalry Division Headquarters. Thus my TED & Me Photo.

This in the presence of our 1st Cav's Commanding General, Gen. HARRY W.O. KINNARD, who 20 years earlier brought us the famous World War II "NUTS" reply to the Germans' ultimatum of surrender during the Battle of the Bulge.

Lots of History there, Lots.

The Vietnam Photo of TED & Me:.

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
(See 5th Photo down)

...was taken just a couple of weeks before our 1st Major Battle of the Vietnam War against Communist North Vietnamese Army Regulars.

http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com
(Paramount Pictures website)

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6 posted on 08/28/2005 9:15:26 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: SLB; Jeff Head

fyi.......:o)


7 posted on 08/28/2005 9:17:22 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: arrow525; Admin Moderator

OK ........why the title change from Nonlethal weapons to Xtreme Defense ?


8 posted on 08/28/2005 9:46:13 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

Because that is the actual title of the article


9 posted on 08/28/2005 9:59:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: arrow525

The question is will the threat of not really hurting you permanently be a deterrent to those who want to really hurt us.

And when those bad people threaten the "innocent civilians caught in the middle", with lethal force, won't they have more of an effect than when the good guys threaten with non-lethal force?


10 posted on 08/28/2005 10:08:35 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: arrow525

Typical WAPO crap. Ms. Weinberger's superiority and dismissiveness percolated to the top. Her whole attitude sort of screamed, "Oh, those wacky Pentagon types!"


11 posted on 08/28/2005 11:29:49 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Squantos

I'll read the article this evening. My first reaction is that I would much rather have a 120mm smoothbore round for sniper supression than a dazzler. Oh well, maybe I am just old fashioned.


12 posted on 08/29/2005 3:27:32 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: arrow525
..weapons that can make you hear the voice of God.

Every lethal weapon will make you hear the voice of God. That's what happens when you die.

13 posted on 08/29/2005 6:37:12 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: arrow525

Fascinating stuff. Bump for a later read.


14 posted on 08/29/2005 11:24:16 AM PDT by Buggman (Baruch ata Adonai Elohanu, Mehlech ha Olam, asher nathan lanu et derech ha y’shua b’Mashiach Yeshua.)
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