Posted on 08/27/2005 9:28:07 PM PDT by Crackingham
Dinny the roadside dinosaur has found religion. The 45-foot-high concrete apatosaurus has towered over Interstate 10 near Palm Springs for nearly three decades as a kitschy prehistoric pit stop for tourists. Now he is the star of a renovated attraction that disputes the fact that dinosaurs died off millions of years before humans first walked the planet.
Dinny's new owners, pointing to the Book of Genesis, contend that most dinosaurs arrived on Earth the same day as Adam and Eve, some 6,000 years ago, and later marched two by two onto Noah's Ark. The gift shop at the attraction, called the Cabazon Dinosaurs, sells toy dinosaurs whose labels warn, "Don't swallow it! The fossil record does not support evolution."
The Cabazon Dinosaurs join at least half a dozen other roadside attractions nationwide that use the giant reptiles' popularity in seeking to win converts to creationism. And more are on the way.
"We're putting evolutionists on notice: We're taking the dinosaurs back," said Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, a Christian group building a $25-million creationist museum in Petersburg, Ky., that's already overrun with model sauropods and velociraptors.
"They're used to teach people that there's no God, and they're used to brainwash people," he said. "Evolutionists get very upset when we use dinosaurs. That's their star."
The nation's top paleontologists find the creation theory preposterous and say children are being misled by dinosaur exhibits that take the Jurassic out of "Jurassic Park."
"Dinosaurs lived in the Garden of Eden, and Noah's Ark? Give me a break," said Kevin Padian, curator at the University of California Museum of Paleontology in Berkeley and president of National Center for Science Education, an Oakland group that supports teaching evolution. "For them, 'The Flintstones' is a documentary."
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Why did God design a reproductive system that naturally aborts millions of embryos?
Completely on topic, and when compared to any topic of evolution, it is the only correct choice, the Bible.
All the free will you can eat here, bud. And if you don't like the cooking, there always the Lake of Fire Diner next door.
Then it's God's will as to who ends up believing in him, not ours.
For those of a Catholic bent, I suggest Humani Generis, as well as these words from our late Pope, John Paul II. His Holiness, I think, put the capstone on these discussions when he stated, "The Bible speaks to us of the origin of the universe and its makeup, not in order to provide us with a scientific treatise, but in order to state the correct relationship of man with God and the universe . . . Any other teaching about the origin and makeup of the universe is alien to the intentions of the Bible, which does not wish to teach how heaven was made, but how to go to heaven."
I am Catholic. I believe in God, who created the universe and I see His hand in the complexity of the fossil record. The Bible was NOT meant to be taken literally as a story of how the Earth was made. Discount the historic fact that Christ lived (the Romans made mention of Him, so we know that), but much of the Bible is a lesson on HOW TO LIVE, not where we came from. Christ came to die for our sins, not to tell us about dinosaurs.
C'mon folks.....THAT'S why we read the Bible, not to see what Fred Flintstone and Alley Oop had for supper!
Just looked at one. Look kinda similar, but the descriptions are completely different. I dont know that warm-/cold-blooded would taste similar...
Bon appetit. Enjoy your KFD....Kentucky Fried Dinosaur.
In my opinion our souls are our wills (or identity). What we do and say is who we are. The will to love God or reject God. At the point of conception God in-souls the hardware (our physical identity aka. flesh aka. dust of the earth) as He did with Adam.
Beasts have souls as well, however they do not have a spirit and cannot have communion with God. Prior to the fall, the beasts were subject to Adam. Their souls/ wills were directed by him. After the fall the souls/ wills of the beasts were in subjection to the new ruler of this world (destruction and death). We see a glimpse of how beasts were originally in subjection to Adam when Jesus Christ was in the desert with the wild beasts in subjection to Him.
Mar 1:13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.
Adam was originally created with his spirit ruling his soul, and his flesh in submission to his spirit. He had perfect communion with God. When he fell (intentionally disobeyed), his soul became ruled by his flesh and his spirit became submitted to his flesh (spiritually dead to his flesh). This is why God did not want Adam to eat from the tree of life, because his spirit would be permenantly submitted to his flesh for eternity and his soul could never have spiritual communion with God again.
Satan took over dominion of this world with Adams failure. Our flesh is enslaved to Satan before we become believers.
The virgin birth of Christ circumvented the rulership of the flesh passed down from Adam, and Christ's spirit ruled from day one. Christ's flesh was still subjected to the curruption of this world, yet he never submitted to it. He required a new eternal body as we do. In His new body He was unrecognizable by His disciples (He stills bears the marks of His sacrifice, however).
Our souls are created (because they were created, we never inhabited eternity as God does). Our earthly flesh is not eternal and needs replacment. Because our spirit and soul are eternal, when we become believers we untaintedly enter into the heavenlies.
Eph 2:5-6
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus:
Jeremiah 1:5 and Romans 9:10-13 describes the soul having a history before being placed in the flesh.
What evidence other than your faith in your theories do you have that they didn't. None. Thank you. Next question
You might review that. God views everything outside of the restriction of time, and thusly would know someone before they were born (in relation to time). It doesn't mean the soul has a history prior to human birth. It just means God can see the birth and person and their actions before they occur in time.
That is how God is able to send word to the king of Babylon through his prophet Isaiah in writing 150 years before the man named in the writing becomes king of Babylon and name him by name as well as telling that king of his accomplishments and what he should do now that he rules Babylon.. Being outside of time allows you a perspective no on else could have.
Thanks for the ping!
Isa 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name [is] Holy; I dwell in the high and holy [place],
The mind of God conceived our reality before He executed it by creating our time domain. He knew all who He would create before He injected the information into our time domain. The physical non-eternal, as well as the massless identity that is our created eternal soul.
Information is massless, yet once conceived and imprinted on hardware becomes a reality, as with a program burnt on a CD. Like God we can conceive and make use of organized intelligent information (made in His image).
Can a programmer know what he will program before he makes it a reality? Nothing becomes a reality without God's approval. The free souls He created that can also create ideas and make use of them, is a chance He chose to take. The consequences related to that freedom has been accepted before He executed His creation. Hence the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. The eternal significance of the cross will not be understood until we reach the other side.
Therein lies the confusion of Calvinists. They have trouble reconciling the sovereignty of God with the free will of man. Therein also lies the problem for evolutionists. They do not understand how God is outside of time and our reality is but a stationary canvas to Him.
The Father in eternity can know the day or the hour, but the Son who is constrained by having been injected into our time domain cannot. In the same way, God in eternity can know us before we are physically conceived and yet we are not created until He injects us into that physical hardware.
You and Ken Ham can believe whatever you want, but you cannot say that the Bible does not allude to a creation that existed before Adam. It even tells what happened to it.
Whatever.
What about them?
How did they fit?
Remember, GOD said this to Noah:
Genesis 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every SORT shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
Perhaps Noah thought, "These lizard's are SORT of like dinosaurs, I'll take them. Besides, have you ever SMELLED a wet dino? WHEW!!!"
My favorite lines from the JP movie:
"Can I pet him?"
"Sure, he's a vegetarian."
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