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Able Danger: Mixed Wires And Chinese Fried Rice
Captains Quarter ^ | August 27, 2005 | Captian Ed

Posted on 08/27/2005 9:21:44 AM PDT by bobsunshine

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1 posted on 08/27/2005 9:22:11 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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bttt


2 posted on 08/27/2005 9:23:29 AM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: bobsunshine

For the backup links, see the article. They didn't come through on the post.


3 posted on 08/27/2005 9:25:31 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: Guenevere

Pay No Attention to The Man Behind The Curtain
4 posted on 08/27/2005 9:26:57 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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5 posted on 08/27/2005 9:28:58 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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6 posted on 08/27/2005 9:31:14 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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7 posted on 08/27/2005 9:31:21 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: bobsunshine

Interesting....my oh my...


8 posted on 08/27/2005 9:32:28 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: bobsunshine
With visions of Watergate dancing in their heads, they followed their first instincts -- fire everyone involved and pretend the program never existed.

Ah, the definition of "is" again.

9 posted on 08/27/2005 9:40:56 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: bobsunshine

"former government officials with legitimate ties to China" maybe conducting illegitimate business? Slick and his cronies come to mind.


10 posted on 08/27/2005 9:49:07 AM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: bobsunshine
My post on this, minutes ago, is closer to explaining how Able Danger works, than Captain's Quarters. Though CQ is closer than the MSM, by a long shot. Search on "NY Post."

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "This is a Court. Tuck in Your Shirt."

11 posted on 08/27/2005 10:06:55 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (I'm on the road, now. Contact me at John_Armor@aya.edu.net.)
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bttt


12 posted on 08/27/2005 10:18:15 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Could be they got the wrong Rice...from an earlier thread:

Dr. SUSAN Rice http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/7/29/132456.shtml (snip) Another ex-Clinton official who played a leading role in bungling efforts to capture and/or neutralize Osama bin Laden has turned up in a key advisory position with the Kerry campaign. Susan Rice, who served as President Clinton's Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs, had earlier been tapped by Gov. Howard Dean's anti-war campaign.

13 posted on 08/27/2005 10:18:35 AM PDT by spokeshave (Strategery + Shardenfreuden = Stratenshardenfreudenery)
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To: bobsunshine; Peach; Enchante
So basically it all comes down to a bunch of military dweebs and contractor geeks fingering Condi..(SNAFU program...My bad)...everybody went Whoops!...and made it all go away...ALL OF IT. Gee...who knew?

And why shouldnt they? The pubs dont want another Watergate..smart of them....so they're happy to go along...(bad program).

Nothing to see here folks...lets move along.

"All that's missing are the $8,000 mousepads."

You bet. The computers were gold plated too...as well as the toilet seats.

Bet we can wrap this whole thing up in a couple weeks...just before Congress gets back in session.

Well just have some legalese and procedural investigations to clean up in Judiciary in the meantime. Make sure to tie it up in FBI misdirection stuff.


On to immigration reform!
/s
14 posted on 08/27/2005 2:07:08 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: bobsunshine

It's CYA time for the 9/11 commission. Anyone who saw the televised portions will recall the shameless grandstanding that people like Roemer engaged in. More important -- the commission member who CREATED THE WALL that prohibited sharing of such data as gathered by Abel Danger with the FBI was none other than JAMIE GORELICK!! This goes back to her years in the Reno Justice Department when she wrote her notorious prohibitions that erected the wall. This is a Clintonista who SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WITNESS before the commission -- not on the panel examining others.


15 posted on 08/27/2005 2:26:02 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: Abcdefg

Do you hear that sound? It's former Senator Fred Thompson's teeth grinding over Chinagate campaign funding.


16 posted on 08/27/2005 5:14:29 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: bobsunshine

BUMP!


17 posted on 08/27/2005 5:19:20 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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".."If I could have one (set of) documents, I would ask for the lawyers' notes," he said..."

They will get those when pigs fly.

Nobody will CYAs better than the attorneys.

18 posted on 08/27/2005 6:19:24 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Dat Mon; Peach; Fedora; Grampa Dave; STARWISE; justshutupandtakeit; Lancey Howard; Howlin; xzins; ..

ABLE DANGER'S technology worked well, maybe too well for the comfort of DOD lawyers appointed by Clinton. They wouldn't care about protecting Condi Rice, but they sure would care that she was so close to William Perry, who was Clinton's Sec. of Defense (1994-97) right in the period of maximum concern about Chinese espionage and our "technology transfers" to the PRC. Apparently it wasn't such a SNAFU for the data mining program to pick up the names of Condi Rice and William Perry in relation to Chinese espionage - below is an article that appeared in 2000!!!

We know the Clintonlites had an atrocious record on China, technology, illegal campaign donations, etc. etc. Now it may turn out to be a bi-partisan scandal. I'm not saying Rice received and personal benefit or necessarily knew the full extent of what was going on -- she may have been more of a mush-headed academic who believes in open borders, absolute free trade, and "sharing knowlege" without sensible limits. Looks like both Rice and Perry were far far too cozy with people involved in technology transfers to the PRC!


Condoleezza Rice and the Stanford spy ring

© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=20581

On the surface, Condoleezza Rice is the perfect pick for George W. Bush. Rice worked for George Bush Sr. in the White House, handling Russian issues. She is a distinguished fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. Bush insiders have mentioned Rice as being on the short list for Secretary of State.

Rice reportedly is also close with former Clinton Secretary of Defense Dr. William Perry. Rice worked with Perry and the Clinton administration during her term at Stanford. Clinton insiders have also mentioned her as being on the short list for Secretary of State.

On Aug. 1, Condoleezza Rice stated during her speech at the Republican National Convention that George W. Bush is up to speed on communist China.

"I know that he understands the complexities of our relationship with China," stated the former Stanford provost of the Texas governor.

"He believes that conflict between our nations is not inevitable. Yet he recognizes the challenge that the Chinese government poses to our interests and values and the irresistible demand for liberty that can be unleashed by freer trade with its people."

Rice has some experience concerning past free trade issues with China. In 1996, Rice was involved in the largest Chinese army penetration of the Clinton administration. To this day, Condoleezza Rice will not answer questions about her service at Stanford with Chinese Army spy Hua Di.

Hua Di came from a family of prominent Communist officials. Hua Di studied missiles in Russia, and worked in the Chinese ballistic missile program for 24 years. In 1984, Hua Di went to work for the China International Trust and Investment Company (CITIC) a firm part owned by the Chinese army.

In 1989, Hua Di fled China for America during the Tiananmen Square crackdown and joined Stanford University. While at Stanford, Hua Di worked with Condoleezza Rice, Dr. William Perry and Dr. John Lewis. Hua Di spent most of his time documenting Chinese missile systems for the University and the Clinton administration.

Hua Di also started a little home-based company at Stanford. By 1994, Dr. Lewis of Stanford and Hua Di were in business with the Chinese army. In 1994, Hua Di and Dr. Lewis joined with Chinese Gen. Nie Li -- wife of Chinese warlord Gen. Ding Henggao -- and entered into a joint venture called Galaxy New Technology.

As a result of that joint venture, a secure fiber-optic communication system was exported directly to the Chinese army.

The project, named "Hua Mei," also drew a General Accounting Office report that was sharply critical of the direct transfer to the Chinese army.

The key to the whole transaction was Chinese defector Hua Di. In an interview published by the Far Eastern Economic Review, Hua Di described himself as a "matchmaker." Hua Di also noted that he was a good friend of Gen. Huai Guomo, the Chinese army officer then working for Gen. Ding.

Hua's business partner, Dr. Lewis, was also a busy man with two extra jobs. In 1994, Dr. Lewis was officially listed on the U.S. Defense Department payroll as Defense Secretary William Perry's personal "consultant" at the same time he worked on the Hua Mei project. According to documents obtained using the Freedom of Information Act, Lewis was pulling three paychecks: one from Stanford, one from the U.S. Defense Department, and one from the Chinese army.

In 1994, Dr. Lewis traveled to Beijing with Secretary Perry. Lewis went to China in order to meet with Gen. Ding and his subordinate, Gen. Huai, as a paid consultant to the secretary of defense. At the same time, the Hua Mei deal was completed with the same Chinese generals. The sudden upgrade of Chinese military technology enriched Ding and Lewis.

Gen. Ding's incredible espionage success inside the Clinton administration brought a literal flood of advanced military equipment for the People's Liberation Army. The long list of advanced military equipment obtained by Gen. Ding does not stop with the Hua Mei secure fiber-optic communications system. Ding, reported to be a close and old friend of Dr. Perry, also obtained super computers for nuclear weapons research, missile nose cone design software, special missile manufacturing equipment and multiple nuclear warhead designs.

In 1996, then Stanford Provost Condoleezza Rice investigated Dr. John Lewis, Dr. Perry and Hua Di. According to the allegations, some of the documentation used to support the Hua Mei project with the Chinese army was prepared using Stanford resources.

"We'll follow what is a normal process under these circumstances. It's not all that unusual that issues arise concerning conflict of interest," said Rice in 1994.

Nothing ever became of the Stanford investigation. Rice made no comment.

In December 1997, I tried to contact Chinese missile expert Hua Di at Stanford University in California. Curiously, Hua Di would not grant an interview on missiles or the Hua Mei project.

In fact, immediately after my call, Hua Di suddenly decided to return to China.

On Dec. 31, 1997, Hua returned to China. Later in 1998, the official Chinese press announced that Hua had been arrested and charged with passing state secrets to U.S. officials. In response, the Clinton administration and Condoleezza Rice at Stanford University worked together to lobby the Chinese government. Stanford officials wrote to the Chinese government appealing for Hua's release.

Then Stanford Provost Condoleezza Rice said, "Professor John Lewis had provided evidence to the fact that the source materials for publications written by him and Mr. Hua were provided by approved Chinese authorities or already were available through the Stanford University library."

Dr. Lewis, Dr. Perry and Rice have all refused repeated requests for an interview. Hua Di is in China and unavailable for comment. However, an Aug. 28 article by top reporter Bill Gertz, titled "Chinese Military Gets Lesson In U.S. Thinking," contains an interesting point about Condoleezza Rice, the George W. Bush campaign adviser.

"Mr. Bush's key campaign national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, has said she does not regard China as a threat," noted Gertz in his excellent article.

As provost it was Rice's job to investigate and document the work of Hua Di and Dr. Lewis. Rice did not make public that two top Stanford missile researchers were involved in a business deal to provide the Chinese army a secure communications system. Rice never noted that the Clinton administration's military evaluation of the Chinese missile force is based on the now-in-question Stanford works of Hua Di and Dr. Lewis.

Condoleezza Rice is reported to have traveled to China in recent years. Her views on China, her close work with the Clinton administration and her involvement in the Hua Mei project raise disturbing and unanswered questions. Today, Rice continues to maintain the Clinton administration fiction that Hua Di was not a spy and nothing happened.




Charles Smith is a national security and defense reporter for WorldNetDaily. Visit his site, Softwar.


19 posted on 08/27/2005 7:53:23 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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Jeff, thought you might be interested in this apparent bi-partisan scandal of Chinese espionage and "technology transfer".... or do you already know about it? If Rice really said that she can't see the PRC as a threat then I am losing a lot of respect for her..... I thought she had better judgment than that, but maybe she is just part of the "bi-partisan" clique of self-important foreign policy experts ala Madeline Half-Bright, William Perry, Sandy Berger, et al.


20 posted on 08/27/2005 7:58:57 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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