Krugman Tries to Pull Fast One (He lies again and is caught)

National Review ^ | 8-19-2005 | John Podhoretz

[Chicos_Bail_Bonds]

KRUGMAN TRIES TO PULL A FAST ONE [John Podhoretz] Paul krugman tells a whopper today in his column about media recounts in the 2000 election: "Two different news media consortiums reviewed Florida's ballots; both found that a full manual recount would have given the election to Mr. Gore." Um--no. Wrong. Bzzzzz. One of those groups was led by USA Today, and here's what they found in a May 15, 2001 USA Today story headlined "Newspapers recount show Bush prevailed": "George W. Bush would have won a hand count of Florida's disputed ballots if the standard advocated by Al Gore had been used, the first full study of the ballots reveals. Bush would have won by 1,665 votes — more than triple his official 537-vote margin — if every dimple, hanging chad and mark on the ballots had been counted as votes."

This will be the subject of about a billion blog entries today. Did Krugman really think he could get away with this?

Posted at 06:28 AM

[SuziQ]

Lexis/Nexis is a bitch, ain't it?

[hinckley buzzard]

He's a liberal. Dishonesty is, by definition, part of his being.

When you are a member of the liberal thought police, the truth is a minor casualty in the service of the CAUSE. Leftwing crackpots have never hesitated to lie when it got them through a tight spot. Krugman is merely following the grand NYSlimes tradition, from Walter Duranty to Jason Blair.

[D-fendr]

thanks for the link.

The CNN story is so futzed up, or the newspaper's recount was, that it's impossible to discern what the heck it means:

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- If a recount of Florida's disputed votes in last year's close presidential election had been allowed to proceed by the U.S. Supreme Court, Republican George W. Bush still would have won the White House, two newspapers reported Wednesday.

The Miami Herald and USA Today conducted a comprehensive review of 64,248 "undercounted" ballots in Florida's 67 counties that ended last month.

Their count showed that Bush's razor-thin margin of 537 votes -- certified in December by the Florida Secretary of State's office -- would have tripled to 1,665 votes if counted according to standards advocated by his Democratic rival, former Vice President Al Gore.

"In the end, I think we probably confirmed that President Bush should have been president of the United States," said Mark Seibel, the paper's managing editor. "I think that it was worthwhile because so many people had questions about how the ballots had been handled and how the process had worked."

Ironically, a tougher standard of counting only cleanly punched ballots advocated by many Republicans would have resulted in a Gore lead of just three votes, the newspaper reported.

The newspapers' review also discovered that canvassing boards in Palm Beach and Broward counties threw out hundreds of ballots that had marks that were no different from ballots deemed to be valid.

The papers concluded that Gore would be in the White House today if those ballots had been counted.

huh?

[Bullish]

Krugman is a partisan moron to the Nth degree. He's a moonbat lunatic.

Disregard everything he writes, including the periods and commas.

[Bullish]

....Has that paper gone so far down the toilet that the editors and publisher have simply lost all sense of shame?

Uh... Yes.

[Mr. Silverback]

Yep, I can't link to a source (other than an op-ed of my own, and that would be cheating) but I know for sure that every single media outlet that looked at the ballots came to the same conclusion.

[Minn]

The closeness of the 2000 election is the best thing that’s happened to the Republican party in years. It caused a vast swath of the Dim faithful to come unglued and wallow in their sense of victimhood. The resulting conspiracy mongering and paranoia about the “Bush Crime Family” has instilled a sense of futility in them. They think they aren’t winning elections because of Rove’s dirty tactics and the Christian Reconstructionists control of touch screen voting machines. In reality, they aren’t winning elections, in part, because their belief of this nonsense.

The emergence of Dean nutcase wing of the party makes them look ridiculous to enough voters to make a difference in elections. The loons may have never been able to seize the wheel and steer down the road to hell if not the closeness of 2000 and all the MoveOn types that had their idiot switch flipped to the on position by the events that November.

You should never try to convert or hush up a lib ranting about 2000. Their obsession with it has been, and continues to be, their undoing. It’s a beautiful thing.

[CyberAnt]

"Did Krugman really think he could get away with this?"


Yes, Krugman did think he could get away with it .. because he thinks we're too stupid to know the truth.

The truth has been on the internet for years .. if anybody cared to look for it.

[silverleaf]

Another vote for Gore!( Broward County standard)

[ArmstedFragg]

The method "advocated by Republicans" involved counting the over-votes. The "advocacy" was more along the lines of trying to draw a comparison between absurdities by saying, "if you're going to count the under-votes, why not count the over-votes too?" In oral arguments before the Supreme Court, the Gore side was asked this question and rejected the idea of counting over-votes. Ironically, that's the only way they would have won.

[aculeus]

The Sulzberger Scandal continues.

Hey, Family. Hire an outsider. Tell him/her to clean house.

[atlanta67]

what lies at the heart of Krugmans psyche is a deep hatred for the American people.

Krugman is a very well educated and intelligent person. But our society has not seen fit to call on him to solve all of our problems (foreign policy, trade, health care) etc. This enrages intellectuals like Krugman. They are instead relogated to the corners of society writing for newspapaers, teaching in universities instead of planning every aspect of our lives.

if the american people were only smarter and hired Krugman to be an unaccountable central planner, we'd see the wisdom of his ways..

this is wha tdrives him and most other intellectuals and explains not only their hate of america, but their love for countries like France, the USSR which are/were run by intellectual elites

[SW6906]

Great post. Spot-on.

[Petronski]

According to the Herald?

They can't even count the counties in Florida (67 or 68 or some other number?).

[ez]

Yes, Krugman did think he could get away with it .. because he thinks we're too stupid to know the truth.

The truth has been on the internet for years .. if anybody cared to look for it.

I honestly believe that K doesn't know any better. Once libs start to believe the crap that is sent to them via their vast left-wing e-mail machine, they tip over into the deep end.

[MarkL]

Sure, Krugman is a sleazy guy, and apparently a pathological liar as well, but what does his continued employment say about the New York Times? Has that paper gone so far down the toilet that the editors and publisher have simply lost all sense of shame?

Well, I'm convinced that the NY Slimes has never had problems with liars working there... The only reason that they fired Jason Blair was because they're a bunch of racists at the NY Slimes! If he had been a white guy lying, no problem with that! But when a black guy lies, well time to get the rope!

Mark

[CyberAnt]

"Once libs start to believe the crap that is sent to them via their vast left-wing e-mail machine, they tip over into the deep end."


I think so too. Just look at Cindy - one of the things she's saying is that GW "stole the election in 2000". These people still have not gotten over this lie.

[liberallarry]

Whether Krugman is right or wrong in his claims about what the media said, he's wrong substantively. When an election is this close the difference falls within the margin of error and the winner cannot be accurately determined. So politics and power rule.