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Canada Blames Us
NRO ^ | August 19, 2005 | John R. Lott Jr.

Posted on 08/19/2005 10:33:53 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Joe Brower
Canada Blames Us

Well when has anyone ever heard of politicians or bureaucrats blaming themselves? Never happen. When their policies fail to product the advertized result, and in fact make things worse, what do they always say? Everyone together now

"We just didn't go far enough"
Politicans and bureaucrats are a wonder to behold. When they do something that has a bad result, they claim with a straight face that doing more the the action that produced the bad result will somehow cause a good result. But, the really amazing thing is that most of the sheeple believe them.
21 posted on 08/19/2005 11:12:34 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Undertow

Where/what is Canada?


22 posted on 08/19/2005 11:12:48 AM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com
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To: Undertow
I loved it when P.J. O'Rourke defined Canada as "Kind of an arctic Nebraska." (No offense intended to Nebraskans!)
23 posted on 08/19/2005 11:12:57 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: neverdem

Let's see, Canada has less guns in the hands of law abiding citizens every year and we have more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens every year. Their violent crime rate is rising and ours has fallen precipitously. Wow, I wonder if there is a correlation?


24 posted on 08/19/2005 11:16:30 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Progressivism: A polyp on the colon politic.)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
Where/what is Canada?

I've heard that its a place where most kids grow up playing something called "hockey".

25 posted on 08/19/2005 11:19:53 AM PDT by Texican72
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To: Joe Brower

John Lott nailed it again!

The anti-gun lunatic left moonbats are completely wrong, as usual!

Guns save lives!

Be Ever Vigilant!


26 posted on 08/19/2005 11:23:10 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Texican72

i thought that was a place called minnesota?


27 posted on 08/19/2005 11:25:56 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: neverdem

Been a red letter year for Canuk's here, shopping, going to the doctor, driving badly, saying "aay" and displaying of a superior attitude to the colonists.


28 posted on 08/19/2005 11:26:44 AM PDT by MontanaBeth
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To: neverdem

BANG BANG!

Canada is ruined by liberals and Socialists!

Don't blame the US plz, you canucks.


29 posted on 08/19/2005 11:26:47 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: neverdem

The murder rate is a defective statistic; it measures the availability and effectiveness of emergency medical care as much as it measures the homicidal intent of the citizenry. The true measure of malignancy in society is aggravated assault. These are the crimes committed with intent to kill, or indifference to killing, that without medical care might have resulted in death.

This number has multiplied several times over, largely as a delayed (by 15 years) response to the appearance of toxic levels of graphic violence in TV programming and video games. It doesn't affect the mindset of adults much, but is a powerful tool for training children to kill without thinking.

So powerful, in fact, that police and military use these games to train their people how to react in threatening situations. The difference is that these groups also train on when to avoid shooting, while the civilian games are all about getting points for kills.


30 posted on 08/19/2005 11:31:04 AM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: from occupied ga

"Canada Blames Us
Well when has anyone ever heard of politicians or bureaucrats blaming themselves? Never happen. When their policies fail to product the advertized result, and in fact make things worse, what do they always say? Everyone together now: "We just didn't go far enough" Politicans and bureaucrats are a wonder to behold. When they do something that has a bad result, they claim with a straight face that doing more the the action that produced the bad result will somehow cause a good result. But, the really amazing thing is that most of the sheeple believe them.


Well said; and true.

- knightshadow.


31 posted on 08/19/2005 11:32:04 AM PDT by knightshadow
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To: neverdem

Gangs eh? Well, they, like many here in the USA, Canada welcomed the scum of the earth to their country, wanted and loves diversity, well, they got what they wished for. So, STFU blaming all else.

Diversity is just another liberal word for divide and conquer.


32 posted on 08/19/2005 11:43:31 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Joe Brower

You are right. It is pathetic. When will people take responsibility for their own problems? Never.

Thanks for the ping! Good article.


33 posted on 08/19/2005 11:48:26 AM PDT by recoveringlurker
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To: from occupied ga

"...what do they always say? Everyone together now, "We just didn't go far enough."

You forgot the part afterwards where they tell you that just a little more tax money thrown at the problem will fix everything.


34 posted on 08/19/2005 11:48:55 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pwease pardan my speling)
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To: knightshadow

Thank you! Pretty frightening, and I am often one to poo-poo statistics, assuming they've been twisted in favor of whomever is releasing them.

I remember a news story (TV) a few years back about... South Africa? And how they had taken guns away, and the home invasions/murders/rapes skyrocketed. They were showing video of homeowners (white) who once lived in beautiful homes but now lived in virtual fortresses: barbed wire, 12 foot walls, cameras, guards, dogs, etc. I remember thinking: MOVE!


35 posted on 08/19/2005 11:57:33 AM PDT by cgk (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps: Emo Phillips)
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To: knightshadow
This was probably the story I saw... in article form:


California: Ground Zero for Complete Gun Ban

Charlton Heston
March 9, 2000

If you want to own any firearm for any reason anywhere in America, you need to watch a startling television report sponsored by the NRA that's currently airing and tracks the explosion of anti-gun laws worldwide; and now in California.

If California, as so often in the past, turns out to be ground zero for the expansion of this movement into America, your rights are clearly in danger.

Election Day 2000 is your best opportunity to defend them.

So get ready for a fight. You've seen how England, Australia and Canada have passed one anti-gun law after another.

What you may not know, unless you've seen the latest NRA report, is that those countries are just a few steps ahead of the United States – and just the most visible victims of a contagion that's spreading worldwide.

In 1996, Australian politicians used the hysteria surrounding a media- sensationalized mass murder to impose, in just weeks, a total ban on all semi- automatic and pump-action rifles and shotguns.

Since those firearms were all already registered, authorities knew exactly whom to contact to confiscate each gun.

In all, they rounded up 640,000 privately owned firearms, which they sawed up in machine shops and sold for scrap steel. Now, any firearms that haven't been banned in Australia must be unloaded, disassembled and sealed in safes with ammunition locked up elsewhere.

The result?

Now in Australia, gun murders are up, firearms assaults are up, armed robberies are up, and home invasions are up.

Watch NRA's latest video production on television and you'll meet the victims first-hand. They have dire warnings for the United States, warnings every American gun owner must heed.

In South Africa, as you'll see, the politics are different, but the price is the same.

After apartheid, a new democratically elected government rode into office on promises of equal rights for all, black or white, rich or poor. But now, that same government is pushing ever-increasing restrictions on the gun rights of citizens: new gun registration and owner licensing requirements, increased fees, and a lifetime ownership limit of one firearm for self-defense.

South African anti-gun politicians soft-sell the new laws, but as Sheena Duncan, a spokeswoman for the anti-gun lobby admitted on camera, "Our ultimate goal is no guns in private hands at all."

That is, except for the criminals.

Today, despite South Africa's already-strict anti-gun laws, 25,000 murders and more than 40,000 rapes are committed each year.

Nearly 1,300 policemen have been killed in the line of duty since 1994. All who obey the law – black and white, rich and poor – suffer, while criminals thrive, all in the name of "global disarmament."

That's what this is, as you'll see in the NRA's report. During the past seven years, at least 25 nations have tightened anti-gun laws or banned guns. Now, countries that don't tolerate any freedom are plotting, through the United Nations, to stomp out firearms freedom wherever it exists – especially the United States. California proves it.

Last year, Gov. Davis signed five new anti-gun bills into law, including a broad extension of the infamous Roberti-Roos semi-auto ban that's taking ordinary hunting rifles that have been around for nearly half a century – such as the Remington Model 7400 and Browning BAR – off store shelves.

Now the Democrats, who control both houses of California's legislature, want to impose far more restrictions. One proposal, cooked up by Handgun Control, Inc., would require registration of all handguns along with annual renewals, fingerprinting, competency tests and ownership inventories.

As one California lawmaker told the Los Angeles Times, "Registration is the next logical step." What's the next step? If California follows the path of England and Australia, confiscation is next. And if California legislation becomes the model for the nation – as it did when the state's 1989 gun bans went into Clinton's Crime Bill of 1994 – your rights are in peril now.

Congressional and presidential candidates are watching California closely. If you want to keep your Second Amendment rights, you need to listen to their every word, alert fellow shooters, hunters and gun owners of what's afoot and what's at stake – and then vote accordingly on Nov. 7.

So watch the NRA video on television, and tell friends and co-workers to do the same. Get them to join the NRA and keep up with events through the Internet, at www.nralive.com and www.nraila.org. Together, we can stop this epidemic as we did in the elections of 1994, but only if every gun owner and American who cherishes freedom knows of the danger and takes steps to combat it.


36 posted on 08/19/2005 12:02:21 PM PDT by cgk (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps: Emo Phillips)
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To: neverdem

I wonder if letting in a lot of Islamists and out of control immigration may be their problem.


37 posted on 08/19/2005 12:05:03 PM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: vetvetdoug
Canada's inept attempt at gun control has made the honest population of that country a smorgasbord for criminals.

Same as in their southernmost province, the "District of Canada"

38 posted on 08/19/2005 12:05:20 PM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: neverdem

A good test of the hypothesis posed by our northern neigbors would be to see if Canadian violent crime went down after we passed GCA34, GCA68, Brady, The Assault Weapons Ban, or any of a number of "gun control" measures in the USA.

But it looks like their crime went up after they tried gun banning themselves, with little or no correlation to the "ready availability of guns" in the USA.

Hey, didn't Michael Moore say that there were more guns per capita in Canada than in the USA? Hmmm, if that savant is telling the truth then why would there be a market for American guns?


39 posted on 08/19/2005 12:05:25 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: neverdem
"If you have a problem, it's often easier to blame someone else rather than deal with it."

Next step is to declare Islam as the national religion of Canada.

40 posted on 08/19/2005 12:07:04 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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