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Last Gaza Settlers Forcibly Removed [kicking and screaming]
Muslim America Society ^ | 8-17-05

Posted on 08/17/2005 4:51:54 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: upchuck

Y'all please pardon my pessimism, OK? I just have a hard time getting all excited about this. The Pali's have done NOTHING to prove they've turned over a new leaf.

They have proved that terrorism works.


21 posted on 08/17/2005 5:44:29 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: SJackson


22 posted on 08/17/2005 5:46:15 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Quinotto
The IDF could not protect the settlers against the ever more violent million arabs.

Safer for the entire country to have everyone in a more safe location.

Rabin encouraged the people to settle there, as a buffer but it is no longer feasible.

Tragic consequences that could not be avoided.

Just my opinion.

23 posted on 08/17/2005 6:12:24 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: upchuck
More true than you might think. Life, 1970

and there they are...

24 posted on 08/17/2005 7:08:51 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: strategofr
This is what Bush got (the Gaza pullout). Sharon got: Bush's outright rejection of the Palestinian Right of Return, still officially "on the table" in the negotiations and acceptance of the idea that Israel will hold onto some West Bank territories permanently

Which will mean exactly squat if Hillary, or any other dem besides Lieberman, is the next president.

25 posted on 08/17/2005 7:11:53 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: strategofr

Bush and Sharon are the same. Selling out their countries for the stinking New World Order that will destroy both nations.

I wish them both Hell.


26 posted on 08/17/2005 7:25:38 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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To: MSM
RANT WARNING!!! So if you don't feel like hearing one then get your eyes the hell off of my post!!!!!!

"He [Sharon] has destroyed our lives and it's just one big party for you," SCREECHED one of the women in her 60s.

GRRRRRRRRR, STUPID IGNORANT NO-SOUL DEMONS IN THE MSM!!!!! Do you Main Stream MORONS think that we are too STUPID LIKE YOU to realize the choice of words that you use? You are NOT careful to choose words that paint the TRUTH of the situation, but instead use words to INFLAME or OUTRIGHT LIE so that your beloved AGENDAS continue to be happily swallowed by most of the smiling cadavers going under the name of humanity these days.

A poor old woman in her SIXTIES is being FORCED out of her home......DRAGGED OUT LIKE AS IF SHE IS A DRUG RUNNER OR YESTERDAY'S TRASH. Out of HER OWN HOME, with all her memories, joys, tears, and loves that have been born and crowned there, and she was ENCOURAGED BY HER OWN GOVERNMENT to MOVE THERE. Then, for no fault of her own, and with no real planning or compassion for where she will END HER "GOLDEN YEARS", THAT SAME GOVERNMENT DRAGS HER OUT OF HER HOME!!! And this FRIGGEN BRAINLESS WONDER OF A TAPE WORM'S EXCREMENT REPORTER HAS THE STUPIDITY TO SAY SHE SCREECHED?????????? SHE SCREECHED??????????

WELL, WHAT IN THE HELL WAS SHE SUPPOSED TO DO? SING?

NO WONDER I DESPISE THE MEDIA. Oh, and over at the Jerusalem ComPost I read where Ruth Matar, a dear lady who heads the Women in Green over there in Israel, I read where she was HISSING! Yes, you read that right! She didn't just answer, or say, or whisper, or yell, or even screech, but SHE HISSED her answer in the words of the Brain-dead alien life form "reporter" who was writing the article.

GRRRRRR to the MSM! Now how on earth am I supposed to even TRY to be DECEIVED into slumberland when reading the VERBAL VOMIT that passes for newsprint, when the slander and HATE are soooooo obvious that even one of their fellow feces in training has to confess that it is propaganda, and not news?!!! GAG and BARF! A POX ON ALL MSM! Why I'd rather see my kids grow up to be operating their own meth labs than be in the MSM. The devil's best tool going today is the MSM.

@U!!$#!T F@[% #&^% #&^% and #&^%!!!!!!

27 posted on 08/17/2005 7:26:07 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: Reborn

I love a good rant.


28 posted on 08/17/2005 7:28:34 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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To: trubluolyguy
This will be the American southwest in a couple of decades

Ethnic cleansing?

29 posted on 08/17/2005 7:28:45 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: OldFriend

"The IDF could not protect the settlers against the ever more violent million arabs.

Safer for the entire country to have everyone in a more safe location.

Rabin encouraged the people to settle there, as a buffer but it is no longer feasible.

Tragic consequences that could not be avoided.

Just my opinion."

On the contrary - the tragedy is that the evictions could and should have been avoided. It can only be concluded from the talking points of your post that you've been reading the MSM and not much else. You and others need to get the facts. The Palestinian Arabs were given 98.5% of the territory they asked for under Oslo, because Israel keeps its word. Israel does not control them; they already control themselves. They are systematically finding ways to take one chunk after another of Israel. The entire Arab media makes it crystal clear that there is no stopping point for them. All the Arabs were being asked to do under the Oslo Accords was stop the incitement to hate. That they did not do, so Israel acted like a fool in giving them land and got nothing in return. All of this disengagement was totally avoidable. A blunder of major proportions. Sharon's decision (quite likely really that of the U.S. State Dept and the EU who want it to look like it was Sharon's idea) puts the West at far greater danger for increased terrorism, not to mention the increased terrorism against the people of all Israel.

Gaza's terrorist training camps are being beefed up and all the top terrorist leaders are in the process of moving there even as the Jews are being evicted.


30 posted on 08/17/2005 7:37:52 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: OldFriend
The IDF could not protect the settlers against the ever more violent million arabs.

Safer for the entire country to have everyone in a more safe location.

Rabin encouraged the people to settle there, as a buffer but it is no longer feasible.

Tragic consequences that could not be avoided.

Just my opinion.

I'm between that opinion and the opinion that this move and the pattycake being played with Iran will ENSURE a nuclear confrontation in the Middle East in 5 to 10 years.

If I had a legitimate means of threatening the existence of Mecca and Medina and several others of Islams "holiest site" I might just throw out that ultimatum.

31 posted on 08/17/2005 7:56:29 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: SJackson
Israel moved to end 38 years of occupation of the Palestinian territory through a forced evacuation.

Screeching halt. This land was originally Egypt's. Son and I were discussing this tonight. I was floored when he said the Israelis should destroy their houses (I agree). I told him that maybe now the Palestinians could get an economy going...construction could be booming. Fifty cents says that inside of a year, it's just another slum. And the Palestinians will be whining about how Israel didn't leave them anything.

When does the carping about Jerusalem begin?

33 posted on 08/17/2005 9:03:54 PM PDT by blu (only insiders knew about the AK-monkey-pumpers smack-down.)
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To: blu
The Palestinians have said they would never ever live in a house where jews lived. The plan was to bulldoze the houses from the start.

The jewish people left are the ultra hardliners waiting for a miracle.

As a jewish woman with family living in Israel for decades I can tell you that I personally do not support the holdouts.

Am beginning to think they don't care what this looks like before the world since they must know they can't win.

Sadly, they put their own demands before the entire country's needs.

34 posted on 08/18/2005 5:09:41 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
Rabin encouraged people to live in the area as a buffer between them and the terrorists.

Yes, the people who came there were brave. They also were shot at, murdered, (slaughtered is a better word) and it came to a point where the situation had to change.

To ask the IDF to protect 8,000 settlers against a million arabs is just too much.

I have no illusions that the arabs are going to create a peaceful state. NONE. They'd rather live in what Sharansky called a FEAR society than a FREE society. Ultimately, Sharon will be at war again. And the cycle will continue.

35 posted on 08/18/2005 5:12:56 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: upchuck

>>>These folks have been at this for hundreds of years


Thousands even.


36 posted on 08/18/2005 6:37:56 AM PDT by sandbar
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