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Last Gaza Settlers Forcibly Removed [kicking and screaming]
Muslim America Society ^ | 8-17-05

Posted on 08/17/2005 4:51:54 PM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 08/17/2005 4:51:54 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
Growth in Spain Threatens a Jewel of Medieval Islam [Christian settlers alert]

They are right on top of us, We will never be able to truly understand this city if something isn't done about those homes.

Not the Gaza homes. The homes in Spain. The West seem to be causing these folk problems everywhere.

2 posted on 08/17/2005 4:54:44 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Gaza resident)
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I've been watching in tears the removal of the Jewish settlers. These people turned deserted land into oasis, created beautiful communities and lived their lives on JEWISH land and now it's been taken away from them. It is unbelievable, my friends, unbelievable that it was allowed to happen.
3 posted on 08/17/2005 4:57:48 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Quinotto

Fast forward a few decades, and you could very well be looking at the southwest U.S.


4 posted on 08/17/2005 5:01:17 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: SJackson

Remember these images folks. This will be the American southwest in a couple of decades.


5 posted on 08/17/2005 5:02:25 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Well, why did you pull a gun on me if you didn't want to have sex?)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

Great minds


6 posted on 08/17/2005 5:02:49 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Well, why did you pull a gun on me if you didn't want to have sex?)
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The World Court calls the settlements illegal. Israel disputes this, reports Reuters.

I'm trying to remember the last time this court came up with a favorable ruling for the U.S. or Israel.

I don't seem to recall them coming up with any negative rulings with regard to the Palestinians either.

7 posted on 08/17/2005 5:04:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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I thought the same thing and share your sadness for the displaced families. In listening to Michael Medved, a devout Jew, he thought it was best. The justification: 6,500 Jews surrounded by 1.5 million Palestinians with no hope of real expansion, i.e., never would be a true Jewish state. Combined with the security issues (and costs), Medved opined Sharon was correct (and that 60% of Israelis agreed)....


8 posted on 08/17/2005 5:05:42 PM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/2 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Quinotto

Sad to think that Sharon would be stupid enough to give up the Gaza strip to MURDERS! The terrorist won! Plain and simple! They have been emboldened further to continue murdering Jews and gentiles until they rule Jerusalem! Sharon doesn't have an inkling of an idea what he just did! You know that saying the Jewish folk always say, NEXT YEAR IN Jerusalem, well, the Arabs are saying Next year Jerusalem and the year after that, the Jewish nation into the sea! Thanks a million Sharon you have just signed your own peoples death certificates! Hamas motto: Terrorize a nation and you'll be rewarded FREE LAND! So sad and frustrating!


9 posted on 08/17/2005 5:08:13 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Quinotto
I've been watching in tears the removal of the Jewish settlers. These people turned deserted land into oasis, created beautiful communities and lived their lives on JEWISH land and now it's been taken away from them. It is unbelievable, my friends, unbelievable that it was allowed to happen.

A human tragedy, regardless of one's opinion of the withdrawl. There was a beginning of civilization there, which I suspect will be lost.

10 posted on 08/17/2005 5:09:47 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Gaza resident)
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IMHO, this will have zero affect on the Pali's utter hatred and revulsion towards the Jews, a feeling deep in their gut that is fed and encouraged from birth.

Once a terrorist, always a terrorist.

There is nothing, nothing the Jews could do to become the Pali's "friends."

11 posted on 08/17/2005 5:10:52 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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Sad to think that Sharon would be stupid enough to give up the Gaza strip to MURDERS! The terrorist won! Plain and simple! They have been emboldened further to continue murdering Jews and gentiles until they rule Jerusalem!

It's sad, but in a couple days, it will be time to put those thoughts in the past. There's still a war going on there.

12 posted on 08/17/2005 5:10:59 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Gaza resident)
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To: upchuck
IMHO, this will have zero affect on the Pali's utter hatred and revulsion towards the Jews, a feeling deep in their gut that is fed and encouraged from birth.

For better or worse, that's essentially the rationale of Sharon's withdrawl. Educated from birth, meaning with an immediate change, not happening, a "peace partener" might emerge in a generation or so.

13 posted on 08/17/2005 5:12:33 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Gaza resident)
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I work with a Palestinian. He is very glad that the Gaza is being handed over.

Quote: "It's a good first step on our way to Jerusalem"

Me: "Where should the Jews live after the Palestinians throw them out?"

Him: "Who cares"!

He's been in this country 18 years!!!

14 posted on 08/17/2005 5:12:38 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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"A human tragedy, regardless of one's opinion of the withdrawl. There was a beginning of civilization there, which I suspect will be lost."

People are missing the point. Bush and Sharon made a trade. This is what Bush got (the Gaza pullout). Sharon got: Bush's outright rejection of the Palestinian Right of Return, still officially "on the table" in the negotiations and acceptance of the idea that Israel will hold onto some West Bank territories permanently.

Both statements were unprecedented moves of support by a US president. The trade was worth it. Having agreed to the deal, Sharon had to pay up on his end.

Now Hamas and the PLA face a quandry. They can no longer simultaneously claim they want peace with an Israeli withdrawal and that they want to kill all the Jews. They have to choose one.


15 posted on 08/17/2005 5:18:32 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: SJackson

The Palestinians want the Jews dead and won't be happy until they are!


16 posted on 08/17/2005 5:20:42 PM PDT by RightWinger
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a "peace partener" might emerge in a generation or so.

Possibly, but I doubt it. These folks have been at this for hundreds of years. Unfortunately, as I said, the Pali's will be relentless in their mission to eliminate the Jews completely.

Just as OBL and his pals want to eliminate the US.

Same mindset.

17 posted on 08/17/2005 5:27:46 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: strategofr
They can no longer simultaneously claim they want peace with an Israeli withdrawal and that they want to kill all the Jews. They have to choose one.

I'll bet you 10 FReeper Bucks the Pali's will continue to talk peace and kill Jews. Just as they have been doing for many years.

18 posted on 08/17/2005 5:30:21 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: upchuck

"I'll bet you 10 FReeper Bucks the Pali's will continue to talk peace and kill Jews. Just as they have been doing for many years"

True. I mispoke to an extent. I am merely saying this will make the situation more obvious.


19 posted on 08/17/2005 5:31:41 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: upchuck

Y'all please pardon my pessimism, OK? I just have a hard time getting all excited about this. The Pali's have done NOTHING to prove they've turned over a new leaf.


20 posted on 08/17/2005 5:32:45 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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