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Politically Incorrect (The Gorelick "Wall")
NationalReview Online ^ | April 20, 2004 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 08/17/2005 7:45:15 AM PDT by bobsunshine

The uproar over 9/11 Commissioner Jamie Gorelick's very simple and very blatant conflict of interest appears, predictably, to be quelling. The New York Times, quoting an anonymous commission member, reliably concluded not that her 1995 memorandum was a smoking gun of intelligence lapse, but rather that John Ashcroft had "politicized" the proceedings by bringing it up. This after commission Republicans curiously leapt to Gorelick's defense, first warning us to stay out of their business (Chairman Kean), and then slandering as "baloney" (John Lehman) and "garbage" (Slade Gorton) good-faith criticism of a delegitimizing process in which a key witness is also a commissioner actively steering the direction of the panel's public hearings and final report.

Meanwhile, Gorelick's allies from the old Clinton war room mobilized as they always so skillfully do. With the help of compliant media friends, they've managed to dissect the obvious into a maze of miniature, obscure, and disingenuous legalisms that take so much airtime to untangle any hope for clarity is lost. The talking points are out: "So, you must also be saying that Justice Scalia should recuse himself from the case involving Vice President Cheney?" "Wasn't this 'wall' really in effect since the 1970s?" "Didn't the 1995 Gorelick memo simply codify existing law?" "Don't many of the commissioners have some involvement in facts the commission is examining?"

The people who ask these questions know full well that they are misleading. Gorelick's conflict has nothing remotely to do with having a social relationship with litigant in a matter in which she is otherwise uninvolved. What was in effect since the 1970s was FISA (the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act), not the wall Gorelick and others placed between criminal and intelligence investigators in 1995.

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KEYWORDS: 911commission; atta; gorelick; wall
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1 posted on 08/17/2005 7:45:16 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

2 posted on 08/17/2005 7:50:45 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
The fact that Gorelick was chosen by Minority Leader Tom Daschle to be on the commission threw down a gauntlet. It said: It's perfectly fine to appoint to the commission someone who was in the thick of the Clinton counterterror strategy because we're not interested in exploring that. Yes, even three years after his Oval Office exit, the frantic efforts to shape Clinton's legacy proceed apace.

Close, Andrew, look deeper. This was about maintaining the viability of the Democrats as a National Party.

Look at it this way. If the truth had come out in the full light of day AT THAT TIME, that Gorelick/DOJ and by extension Bill Clinton, the Democrats Idol, were actually responsible for allowing the 9/11 attack to happen, The Party would be finished in terms of EVER putting another Candidate in the White House.

3 posted on 08/17/2005 7:51:48 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: bobsunshine

Gorelick is not going to be so lucky when the indictments come down in the Fannie Mae investigation.


4 posted on 08/17/2005 7:51:49 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Where is Chris Lehane??)
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To: Admin Moderator

Please change the date on this thread. Should be April 20, 2004 (re-post). Thanks


5 posted on 08/17/2005 7:56:05 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine; All
To see why this is so, one need only go to the commission's website

I advise ALL to do exactly this. Gorelick is still working her 'magic'.

6 posted on 08/17/2005 7:58:20 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Hi Lloyd. A little slow tonight, isn't it?”)
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To: bobsunshine
So that is why ole Sandy was stuffing his pants with secret documents!!!!
I believe that the real reason for the "Wall" was Gorelick was trying to protect Bill and Hill from the China scandal(money for nukes), and other dirty dealings..
Gorelick should be put on trial for treason. I bet she would squeal like the pig she is.... There is more to this "Gate" than meets the eye!
7 posted on 08/17/2005 7:58:53 AM PDT by timdel33
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To: hobbes1
So why did the GOP help them by appointing milquetoast pubbies who could be used as sock puppets and by staying silent when the most blatant partisan tactics were used by Democrat Commission members to steer the investigation away from the facts?
8 posted on 08/17/2005 8:01:06 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: bobsunshine

Yeah and here sh**y grin every time you saw her on TV. Laughing at the stupid american people, and the families sitting in the audience. Knowing full well SHE was part of the reson their familiy members were dead. She facilitated the terrorists. BTW has anyone asked the 9-11 Families how they like the 9-11 commisssion NOW. I bet they can't even get 10 seconds of air time from the MSM now.


9 posted on 08/17/2005 8:01:29 AM PDT by marty60
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To: bobsunshine

We EXPECT the Dems to be unethical and crooked, but Kean and the other Pubbies that came to Gorelick's defense were DESPICABLE!


10 posted on 08/17/2005 8:02:01 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: bobsunshine

The date is wrong. It is from 2004.


11 posted on 08/17/2005 8:02:46 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: bobsunshine
Listen to this and ask yourself if America Ever Had the Remotest Chance Under a clinton to Avoid 9/11
(To paraphrase Einstein: "The unleashed power of terrorism has changed everything save our modes of thinking, and we thus drift toward unparalleled catastrophes.")

12 posted on 08/17/2005 8:04:46 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Gorelick is not going to be so lucky when the indictments come down in the Fannie Mae investigation.

???

Please, do tell!

13 posted on 08/17/2005 8:07:09 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Truth29
So why did the GOP help them by appointing milquetoast pubbies who could be used as sock puppets and by staying silent when the most blatant partisan tactics were used by Democrat Commission members to steer the investigation away from the facts?

Isnt it clear? The Administration never wanted the commission, (and BTW Fred Fielding is hardly a milquetoast sock puppet) so it was far easier to put a couple of toothless pubbies to go along with Partisan Dems, to basically make the commission all bark, and no bite.

To Wit: Once the hearings were over, the Administration didnt want to be pigeonholed into doing something it didnt want to do.

14 posted on 08/17/2005 8:08:59 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
"Gorelick is not going to be so lucky when the indictments come down in the Fannie Mae investigation."

Ha Ha, We're not even going to try to kill that football, Lucy. (But details anyway please)
15 posted on 08/17/2005 8:09:19 AM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: bobsunshine

 

Gorelick's surreal presence on the 9/11 commission investigating Gorelick's Justice Department, a maneuver that effectively removes from the universe of witnesses a central witness, Gorelick, even as it uniquely positions a central player, Gorelick, to directly shape the commission's conclusions. (Is there any question which two people are responsible for Gorelick's insertion on the commission?)

Conversely, that it never occurred to anyone on the commission that Gorelick's flagrant conflict of interest renders her presence on the commission beyond farce calls into question the commission's judgment if not its integrity. Washington's mutual protection racket writ large, I suspect....

Reverse Gorelick
by Mia T, 4.15.04
QUINN IN THE MORNING (ESSAY DISCUSSED)
(
MP3, REAL, WINDOWS MEDIA, WINAMP)

 

Listen to this and ask yourself if America Ever Had the Remotest Chance Under a clinton to Avoid 9/11
(To paraphrase Einstein: "The unleashed power of terrorism has changed everything save our modes of thinking, and we thus drift toward unparalleled catastrophes.")


Why hillary clinton should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office... or any position of power--THE SERIES
REASON 1: MISSUS CLINTON HIRED JAMIE GORELICK


HILLARY'S TRIPLE PLAY
the clinton putsch + filegate + the gorelick wall



deconstructing clinton… "just because I could"


(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)

COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005

FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU! FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME! 


 

 
"While the Republicans are (place some nasty verb here), a clinton is working hard for the people"

 

BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE)
THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE


NANO-PRESIDENT, MEGA-DISASTER
history will not be kind to bill + hillary clinton


NANO-PRESIDENT
the danger of the unrelenting smallness of bill + hillary clinton


HIROSHIMA'S NUCLEAR LESSON
bill clinton is no Harry Truman




 hillary talks:ON TERROR

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16 posted on 08/17/2005 8:10:28 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Washington's mutual protection racket writ large, I suspect....

I'm with you on this one.

17 posted on 08/17/2005 8:15:26 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (The constitution is not in exile, it's in a nice safe deposit box in the Cayman Islands - Lileks)
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To: dubyaismypresident
more on this:

Listen to this and ask yourself if America Ever Had the Remotest Chance Under a clinton to Avoid 9/11
(To paraphrase Einstein: "The unleashed power of terrorism has changed everything save our modes of thinking, and we thus drift toward unparalleled catastrophes.")

18 posted on 08/17/2005 8:16:39 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: hobbes1

Daaaaaaaaaamn straight, all right.


19 posted on 08/17/2005 8:26:07 AM PDT by Houmatt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: marty60
The Clinton's were control freaks, with good reason considering their many illegal acts in relationship to Chinese Money in the coffers of the Democrat Party. Gorelick may have written the memo but nothing happened at the Justice Department that was not directed from the Clinton White House.

The "wall" was an effort to shield the Clinton's. They were trying to stop the flow of information that would implicate them in illegal campaign finance activities. 911 was the unintended result of the wall. The blood of 911 is not on Gorelicks hands. She was but a tool of the Clintons. The blood is on the hands of Hillary and Bill Clinton.
20 posted on 08/17/2005 8:37:31 AM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Rough Neck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast (Oil Field Trash was FUN))
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