Gorelick is *so* busted on covering up Atta. She had to massage the dates in order to deny that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence in Prague.
Posted on 08/16/2005 1:56:21 PM PDT by spycatcher
Laurie: Was the commission that investigated the 9/11 attacks hold that lead hijacker muhammad atta had been identified in his al qaeda operative more than a year before terrorists struck? Workers for that commission say no, but a military intelligence specialist says he himself told the staffers about atta, and now he has gone on the recorD. A fox report from national correspondent catherine herridge.
>> In his first tv interview, a military intelligence ecialist who worked on able danger says he did personally brief staffers with the 9/11 commission in october, 2003, about muhammad atta. Lieutenant certainly tony schaefer is one of the principal contacts working with congressman curt weldon.
>> We talked about to the 9/11 commission that we found these guys matched a pattern, a pattern in this case of atta and the other four terrorists matched the brooklyn location.
>> A 9/11 spokesman said nothing they got from the pentagon in early 2004 backed up schaefer's claiM.
>> Schaefer says the commission never got the whole story.
>> I'm told confidently that by the person who did move the material over, that the 9/11 commission received two briefcase sized containers of documents. I can tell you for a fact that would not be 1/20 of the information that able danger consisted of during the time we spent.
>> Able danger was set up in the late 1990's to track al qaeda worldwide. Schaefer says its omission makes the final 9/11 report incomplete.
>> Leaving a project targeting al qaeda as a global threat a year before we're attacked by al qaeda is equivalent to having an investigation into pearl harbor and leaving somehow out the japanese.
>> Fox news has learned that shaffer's security clearance was suspended last year over a disputed phone bill and allegations he hadn't gone through the chain of command to obtain an award for able danger. His attorney told fox news no formal action has been taken against his client and he has been promoted to lieutenant colonel by the army.
"Nail Bubba to the wall"?
Hell, you can't nail jello to a wall, and Bubba has all the consistency and content of jello....
Semper Fi
Something isn't right here.
I just listened to this man on the Mike Savage radio program, he is on the second and third hours.
I was impressed, it was well done and he cares about America.
A real person, with a job that he does, not a glory hog.
My opinion.
I really wish we didn't know their names, and I would hope that they would work to keep their anonymity. These people are potentially too valuable to expose themselves to the taudry nature of politics in it's raw undistilled publicly diseminated form. We should protect these people for the duty they perform for our country and for our cause...
Here is the link to the Praque story:
http://www.praguepost.com/P02/2002/20605/news1a.php
Also a few questions:
http://www.computerbytesman.com/911/praguefaq.htm
People that Clinton didn't have to pardon
Quite an impressive little list. Guess it pays to pick your friends carefully. Coincidence?
1. James McDougal Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2. Mary Mahoney A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3. Vince Foster Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide.
4. Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5. C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization. Died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6. Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
7. Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8. Jerry Parks Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9. James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10. James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11. Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12. Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound. Also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13. Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14. Florence Martin Accountant and sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15. Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head; ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16. Paula Grober Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17. Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18. Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death.
19. Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
20. Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21. Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance. Died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22. Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee. Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council, personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23. Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas; death was no accident.
24. Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic Found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25. Stanley Huggins Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26. Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27. Kevin Ives & Don Henry Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said ... "due to falling asleep on railroad tracks." Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION IN THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28. Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 88.
29. Keith McMaskle Died. (A slight understatment) Stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988
30. Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31. Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32. James Milan Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".
33. Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34. Richard Winters A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 35. Major William S. Barkley Jr. 36. Captain Scott J. Reynolds 37. Sgt. Brian Hanley 38. Sgt. Tim Sabel 39. Major General William Robertson 40. Col. William Densberger 41. Col. Robert Kelly 42. Spec. Gary Rhodes 43. Steve Willis 44. Robert Williams 45. Conway LeBleu 46. Todd McKeehan
A bloody, murderous cabal that had their hands on the reigns of the American government. They want it back (God forbid)...and I am convinced while Hillary goes for the US, ultimatley Bill will go for the UN.
Sounds like they're protected by the Devil himself.
Gorelick is *so* busted on covering up Atta. She had to massage the dates in order to deny that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence in Prague.
I've got nothing more than gut feel for this but I think that's exactly the case.
Mohamed Atta is known to have been in Prague on two occasions: in December 1994, when he stayed one night at a transit hotel, and in June 2000, when he was en route to the United States. On the latter occa sion, he arrived by bus from Germany, on June 2, and departed for Newark the following day.
The allegation that Atta met with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague in April 2001 originates from the reporting of a single source of the Czech intelligence service. Shortly after 9/11, the source reported having seen Atta meet with Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim Samir al Ani, an Iraqi diplomat, at the Iraqi Embassy in Prague on April 9, 2001, at 11:00 A.M.
This information was passed to CIA headquarters.
The U.S. legal attach? ("Legat") in Prague, the representative of the FBI, met with the Czech service's source. After the meeting, the assess ment of the Legat and the Czech officers present was that they were 70 percent sure that the source was sincere and believed his own story of the meeting. Subsequently, the Czech intelligence service publicly stated that there was a 70 percent probability that the meeting between Atta and Ani had taken place.The Czech Interior Minister also made several statements to the press about his belief that the meeting had occurred, and the story was widely reported.
The FBI has gathered evidence indicating that Atta was in Virginia Beach on April 4 (as evidenced by a bank surveillance camera photo), and in Coral Springs, Florida on April 11, where he and Shehhi leased an apartment. On April 6, 9, 10, and 11,Atta's cellular telephone was used numerous times to call various lodging establishments in Florida from cell sites within Florida.We cannot confirm that he placed those calls.
But there are no U.S. records indicating that Atta departed the country during this period. Czech officials have reviewed their flight and border records as well for any indication that Atta was in the Czech Republic in April 2001, including records of anyone crossing the border who even looked Arab.They have also reviewed pictures from the area near the Iraqi embassy and have not discovered photos of anyone who looked like Atta. No evidence has been found that Atta was in the Czech Republic in April 2001.
According to the Czech government,Ani, the Iraqi officer alleged to have met with Atta, was about 70 miles away from Prague on April 8?9 and did not return until the afternoon of the ninth, while the source was firm that the sighting occurred at 11:00 A.M. When questioned about the reported April 2001 meeting,Ani--now in custody--has denied ever meeting or having any contact with Atta.
Ani says that shortly after 9/11, he became concerned that press stories about the alleged meeting might hurt his career. Hoping to clear his name, Ani asked his superiors to approach the Czech government about refuting the allegation. He also denies knowing of any other Iraqi official having contact with Atta.
These findings cannot absolutely rule out the possibility that Atta was in Prague on April 9, 2001. He could have used an alias to travel and a passport under that alias, but this would be an exception to his practice of using his true name while traveling (as he did in January and would in July when he took his next overseas trip). The FBI and CIA have uncovered no evidence that Atta held any fraudulent passports.
KSM and Binalshibh both deny that an Atta-Ani meeting occurred. There was no reason for such a meeting, especially considering the risk it would pose to the operation. By April 2001, all four pilots had completed most of their training,and the muscle hijackers were about to begin entering the United States.
The available evidence does not support the original Czech report of an Atta-Ani meeting.
Atta and Shehhi both encountered some difficulty reentering the United States, on January 10 and January 18, respectively. Because neither presented a student visa, both of them had to persuade INS inspectors that they should be admitted so that they could continue their flight training. Neither operative had any problem clearing Customs. After returning to Florida from their trips,Atta and Shehhi visited Georgia, staying briefly in Norcross and Decatur, and renting a single-engine plane to fly with an instructor in Lawrenceville. By February 19,Atta and Shehhi were in Virginia.They rented a mailbox in Virginia Beach, cashed a check, and then promptly returned to Georgia, staying in Stone Mountain.
We have found no explanation for these travels. In mid-March, Jarrah was in Georgia as well, staying in Decatur.There is no evidence that the three pilots met, although Jarrah and Atta apparently spoke on the phone. At the end of the month, Jarrah left the United States again and visited Senguen in Germany for two weeks. In early April, Atta and Shehhi returned to Virginia Beach and closed the mailbox they had opened in February.
By the time Atta and Shehhi returned to Virginia Beach from their travels in Georgia, Hazmi and Hanjour had also arrived in Virginia, in Falls Church. They made their way to a large mosque there, the Dar al Hijra mosque, sometime in early April.
As we mentioned earlier, one of the imams at this mosque was the same Anwar Aulaqi with whom Hazmi had spent time at the Rabat mosque in San Diego. Aulaqi had moved to Virginia in January 2001.
It's about damn time!!
In a story filed at 7:10 PM, the Associated Press is now confirming all the particulars of what will now forever be called the Able Danger disaster. The 9/11 Commission staff did hear about intelligence-gathering efforts that hit pay dirt on the whereabouts of Mohammed Atta -- in 1999 -- and deliberately chose to omit word of those efforts.
And why? Because to do so might upset the timeline the Commission had established on Atta.
And why is that significant? Because the Mohammed Atta timeline established by the Commission pointedly insisted Atta did not meet with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague.
"The owner of the flight school that trained Atta and another hijacker claims that: 1) the commission's dates on their flight training in Venice, FL are wrong and 2) he was never interviewed by the commission staff. There was an earlier FR thread today on this."
I did not know that, Southack. It just gets worse and worse. As someone said earier in the week, the 9/11 Commission Report needs to be relegated to fiction.
Does anyone know how the staffers were selected? Who exactly did the hiring?
I don't know, mewzilla, but would imagine that Zellikow, as executive director, would have set out a procedure and criteria.
bbl
WEll, FWIW, I think the commission should be made to lay that out. Who hired whom, who answered to whom, who talked to whom. Preferably under oath.
He's supposed to be on Tony Snow's show today isn't he?
In one of the archives I visited a few years back, the archivist said their No. 1 problem was STILL theft!! We were not allowed to take in anything except our bodies and the clothes on our backs and were monitored continuously. BERGER WAS NOT MONITORED CONTINUOSLY. We call that an inside job.
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