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The savaging of Cindy Sheehan (FR mentioned)
uruknet.info, Italy information from occupied iraq ^ | August 12, 2005 | Matthew Rothschild

Posted on 08/13/2005 2:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: RushLake
There was a series on PBS many years ago called "Messengers From Moscow," which had KGB operatives tell their story about the extent of effort was put into the undermining of the West. Someday I would like to make a transcript of the program. Ann Coulter, in her book Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism, explores the Venona Papers to prove that there were Communist operating in the highest levels of government. Yes, Hollywood did have Communists using movies to soften the culture. The left and their Communist mentors is obsessed with the notion that they can return to the protest days of the 60s and 70s by recreating the same tactics at play during the Viet Nam War. The Viet Nam War is the left's most favorite war because it is the only war that America lost. It is the intent of the left to use the same tactics used to lose the Viet Nam War. It is what I call the Communist Cookbook. These are tactics used to manipulate the public will and they were developed by the brightest of Soviet Communist operatives at work in our universities.

The residue of this influence is now trying its best to rear its ugly drug infested head against the United States. The tools of the left--the Cindy Sheehans of the world-- are fools who would dismantle the moral framework of the Western Capitalistic system and slide down the primal ooze into a primitive tribal reto-Woodstock world. America in moral decay is a nation paralysed in its will to resist the forces of danger.

A common characteristic of those of the left is narcissism. When narcissism has no moral compass--no conscience--it steps into the world of the sociopath. The left is willing to trade our nation security for socialism: guns to butter. As such they are a cancer on the body politics that opposes the notion that a country of the stature of the United States has a responsibility to the condition of mankind on this planet: self sacrifice for the legacy of freedom.

181 posted on 08/14/2005 2:13:12 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: jonrick46

Your comments are well said and to the point. "The Venona Secrets" is a real eye opener. There was also a biography of Whitaker Chambers published about 5 years ago that is a real eye opener. Unfortunately, there are a lot of unwitting fellow travelers (In Michigan their leaders are the canadian governor Jennifer Mulhern, and senators stabemall and Karl Lenin) that are too illiterate or disinterested to read and understand this stuff. They let the communist inspired media (ABS, NBS, CBSNN, CBS, PBS) do their thinking.


182 posted on 08/14/2005 5:15:36 AM PDT by RushLake (Proud father of a United States Marine)
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To: HitmanNY
This won't end very well. I see a full blown breakdown in her future.

It will be "Bush's fault", don't ya know? /sarc off
Side note: While attending the rally in Crawford yesterday I noticed so many of the women of the Cindy camp wearing the same type of hat as she does. And it didn't become them any more than it does her. They basically appeared to be people who were searching for excitement that does not exist in their regular lives. Silly idiots, all of them.

183 posted on 08/14/2005 6:57:48 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Prime Choice

A picture is indeed worth a thousand words, and truer ones were never spoken regarding liberal foreign policy for the U.S. lol.


184 posted on 08/14/2005 7:03:12 AM PDT by LucyJo ("I have overcome the world." "Abide in Me." (John 16:33; 15:4)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Shameless savaging" Ha! More like rightful criticism.


185 posted on 08/14/2005 7:05:50 AM PDT by DarthVader (Islam is not something to be understood, it is something that must be utterly destroyed)
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To: patriciamary

I get the impression they don't like us.

As time goes by I am more and more riminded on Ann Coulter's prescription. She said be must invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert the rest to Christianity. Makes more sense daily.


186 posted on 08/14/2005 10:30:05 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Rockingham
That was a cordial, reasoned response, and I appreciate it.

My only problem in what you wrote is using surrogates to do the dirty work. It's like I don't like to call Cindy names, so I get a couple newbies to sign up on FR and have them do it for me.

I hate it that politics has come to this.

More than anything, I like truth though. I don't know if I found the right site or not, but I was trying to educate a liberal about Halliburton, about which I was woefully ignorant. I searched on google and almost every site had something terribly negative to say about it.

I found factcheck.org and noted that they call both the left and the right on lies and fabrications. Didn't take the time to check it all out because I don't have that much time for that.

What I did find, however, was a .pdf legal document in which Cheney divested himself for good of all interests in Halliburton, by a 40-40-20 split to three charities, once his tax and other obligations outstanding were satisfied due to his taking part of his salary while he headed Halliburton spread over a couple to five years, can't remember exactly.

I'm also aware that any investments owned by Bush and Cheney are placed in blind trust for the duration of their time in office. That's what you get into trying to ferret out the absolute truth. I am totally in favor of exposing the lies of the left with real facts and criticizing one's political opponents without resorting to namecalling.

Thank you for your little essay. It went down better with me than being trashed personally for refusing to cross my line in the sand about trashing someone else.

This whole business will blow over, like everything seems to do. Trust me, the media will tire of her and move on to something else in due course, and she will be left high and dry, and no doubt in need of some serious help. I applaud the efforts of those who work tirelessly to expose the fabrications in the agenda being played out at Camp Crawford, and I was glad when Bush stood up to them and saying we weren't leaving.

I know getting into the war was controversial, but we went in with approval of both parties and it's a done deal. To pull out now would be a gross betrayal of any good we have gained there, the Americans who have died for the cause, including civilian contractor employees, and of the Iraqi people who are happy to be free of Saddam and putting their own lives on the line and spilling their blood along with ours.

187 posted on 08/14/2005 12:54:35 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: piasa

Thanks.


188 posted on 08/14/2005 1:12:57 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Aliska
I liked your comments; you are plainly sincere and thinking things through, which is often a hard course.

There is a fundamental difference between private life and public life. What are virtues in private life are often utter folly in public life and as public policy; and things that would be wrong as private conduct can be a legitimate form of service to others. In the abstract, we instinctively reject the idea that it could ever be right get a phone call from someone, grab a shotgun, and then go break down the door and invade a stranger's home. Criminals do that -- but so do SWAT teams.

Human nature is why surrogates and paid advertising are advisable and sometimes absolutely necessary in making negative attacks in political campaigns. People mostly do not like being forced to know and think about unpleasant things and commonly react against the person who is forcing them to do so. People tend to want a sugarcoated world and get angry at the first person to tell them of dishonesty or misconduct in someone or something they care about; and, even as to strangers, many prefer the illusion that the world is somehow better than it is. As T.S. Eliot put is, "Humankind cannot bear much reality."

The use of surrogates and paid advertising for negative attacks -- which is a basic tenet of campaign management -- helps to makes politics less harsh and more truthful. The bitterness engendered by direct confrontations between candidates is avoided; and, due to the risk of adverse public reaction and suit for defamation, managers, parties, surrogates, and advertisers insist that negative attacks be backed up with conclusive documentation.

In years of experience with Republican campaigns and opposition research, I have never been asked to contrive a false allegation and all cautions have been to the contrary. There are many times that allegations believed to be true were not used because they could not be fully proved. The hard part is usually getting approval by candidates for well-founded negative attacks. Even though elections are win or lose competitions, even at the risk of losing, most candidates tend to want genteel campaigns without lasting bitterness.

I am separately sending along by email a Wall Street Journal opinion piece by academic Kathleen Hall Jamieson, "In Praise of Negative Campaigns." The article makes similar points.
189 posted on 08/14/2005 10:59:12 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: RushLake
Amen! We at the Free Republic have the resources in our reach to keep very well informed with the truth--not the flying saucer, Trilateral Commistion goof ball conspiracies you find from the left.
190 posted on 08/15/2005 12:54:31 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: jonrick46
I also found this web site that has some of Sheehan's writings:

www.lewrockwell.com/sheehan/sheehan10.html

I wonder if anyone has a biography of Sheehan. My cousin says he worked with her in the state penitentiary system. It would be interesting if that were true.
191 posted on 08/15/2005 1:01:02 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gosh darn just had to get the old hankie out and have a few tears over this article....Not...

This guy must have drank the whole bucket of Cindy Sheehan koolaide.

The lying traitors on the left have their propaganda people turning out diatribe and sympathy by the buckets,
192 posted on 08/15/2005 1:12:41 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Notice anything wrong in that picture?


193 posted on 08/15/2005 1:15:23 PM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is this where we're sending the Monopoly $$? :)


194 posted on 08/15/2005 1:15:50 PM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
... This is old-style McCarthyism, straight on down to the red-baiting.

Needed to combat ol' school communism.

195 posted on 08/15/2005 1:18:07 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Bahbah
She's one ugly babe both physically and mentally.

Why is it the left seems to have a tendency to hitch their proverbial wagons to people who are psychologically sick.

Lets see Murdering Ted Kennedy, sickness: alcohol induced flights of fancy.
196 posted on 08/15/2005 1:21:16 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
By the way, Hendrie's screed was posted on the website, freerepublic.com

This piece rails against guilt-by-association, and then this is one of the last sentences. The author is a complete idiot, or has zero intellectual honesty. Or both.
197 posted on 08/15/2005 1:24:08 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: GarySpFc

No one is forcing you to read this thread.


198 posted on 08/15/2005 1:24:55 PM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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