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Mom, Who Lost Son In Iraq, Talks About 'Disgusting' White House Private Meeting With Bush
Uruknet ^ | July 5, 2005 | Greg Szymanski

Posted on 08/12/2005 4:29:29 PM PDT by Raebie

Mom, Who Lost Son In Iraq, Talks About 'Disgusting' White House Private Meeting With Bush; Claims He Was Arrogant, 'Totally Detached From Humanity' And Didn't Even Know Her Name

Founder of peace group to stop senseless murder of our children, Cindy Sheehan wants parents to 'wake up' to the illegal nature of the war and Bush's corrupt motives meriting impeachment. She tells parents to advise their children not to fight, saying it's better 'to spend a year in jail instead of an eternity in a coffin.'

July 5, 2005

Cindy Sheehan has already had her heart ripped into a million pieces by the illegal Iraqi war, losing the son she loved more than life itself only five days after he arrived in Baghdad in April 2004.

There is nothing more painful or more heart breaking than a parent losing a child.

And for Sheehan to lose her 24-year-old son, Casey, must have been like someone taking her very own heart and soul and, without warning, ripping them out and throwing them into the depths of hell.

No one should have to experience such pain, but the cold reality of war is that someone’s child actually dies and there are actual parents left living with the hopeless task of trying to cope with the pain.

And anyone with any semblance of a heart and soul knows a mother coping with such a loss needs all the help and understanding she can get.

Anyone with the slightest bit of compassion knows a kind word or a shoulder to cry on helps a mother, who experienced the ultimate loss, get through another day when every day feels like it could be the end of the world.

So when Sheehan received an invitation to meet privately with President Bush at the White House two months after her son died, the least she could have expected was a bit of compassion or a kind word coming from the heart.

But what she encountered was an arrogant man with eyes lacking the slightest bit of compassion, a President totally "detached from humanity" and a man who didn’t even bother to remember her son’s name when they were first introduced.

Instead of a kind gesture or a warm handshake, Sheehan said she immediately got a taste of Bush arrogance when he entered the room and "in a condescending tone and with a disgusting loud Texas accent," said: "Who we’all honorin’ here today?"

"His mouth kept moving, but there was nothing in his eyes or anything else about him that showed me he really cared or had any real compassion at all. This is a human being totally disconnected from humanity and reality. His eyes were empty, hollow shells and he was acting like I should be proud to just be in his presence when it was my son who died for his illegal war! It was one of the most disgusting experiences I ever had and it took me almost a year to even talk about it," said Sheehan in a telephone conversation from Washington D.C. where she was attending a July 4th anti-war rally.

Sheehan said the June 2004 private meeting with the President went from bad to worse to a nightmare when Bush acted like he didn’t even want to know her name. She said Bush kept referring to her as ‘Ma’ or ‘Mom’ while he "put on a phony act," saying things like ‘Mom, I can’t even imagine losing a loved one, a mother or a father or a sister or a brother.’

"The whole meeting was simply bizarre and disgusting, designed to intimidate instead of providing compassion. He didn’t even know our names," said Sheehan. "Finally I got so upset I just looked him in the eye, saying ‘I think you can imagine losing someone. You have two daughters. Imagine losing them?’ After I said that he just looked at me, looked at me with no feeling or caring in his eyes at all."

Sheehan said what really upset her about the meeting is that Bush appeared to become annoyed and even angry at her daughter Carley, 25, who also attended the White House get-together.

"My daughter said to him directly ‘I wish I could bring my loved one back’ and he said something like ‘so do we.’ Later she told me that after he made his remark he gave her one of the filthiest looks she had ever had gotten in her life.

"I just couldn’t believe this was happening. It was so surreal and bizarre. Later I met with some of the other 15or 16 families who were at the White House the same day and, sure enough, they all felt the same way I did.

"It’s interesting that they put us each in separate rooms. I heard this was done to prevent any type of group outburst and since it’s easier to control a situation when people are separated. Looking back, all I can say is that the meeting with Bush was one of the most disgusting experiences in my life.

"And I even asked him: ‘Why did you even bother to bring us here when I didn’t vote for you and don’t support the illegal nature of your war?’ He said it wasn’t political but I know it was just another one of his lies, as he probably wanted to be able to say out on the political stump that he wasn’t afraid to meet with families who lost loved one’s in the war."

Although Sheehan was opposed to the illegal nature of the war from the outset, it wasn’t until January that she began to become politically active.

Besides speaking at rallies and becoming known in Washington for her outspoken criticism of Bush, Sheehan formed a group called Gold Star Families For Peace, joining together families who lost loved ones in an effort to expose the illegal nature of the war and to hasten the return of troops still fighting in Iraq.

Her involvement with the anti-war movement also led her recently to join forces with the After Downing Street movement, a civic, political and activist group seeking to open a Presidential impeachment inquiry based on the release of damaging British intelligence documents showing Bush doctored WMD intelligence reports to justify his war policy.

"Americans need to wake up and we need to put public pressure on our leaders to end this illegal war," said Sheehan, adding that if the public remains passive, recent statements by Donald Rumsfeld that the war may last another 12 years will come true. "We can’t let these people continue to murder our children and also continue murdering innocent Iraqi citizens, now totaling more than 100.000.

"This is an immoral war based on a false premise. Iraq was never an imminent threat and the Downing Street Memo proves Bush went to war for oil, greed and all the wrong reasons.

Commenting on Bush’s recent speech at Ft. Bragg intended to rally America behind an unpopular war, she said:

"He never mentioned the WMD threat and repeatedly brought up 9/11 in an attempt to scare and frighten everyone again. People have characterized the speech in many ways, but if I had to pick a few words, I would say hypocritical, manipulative, condescending, meaningless drivel."

After the speech, Sheehan was unexpectedly invited on the CNN Larry King Show June 28, but expressed concern and outright anger over the fact she was only given 82 seconds to be "the token anti-war peace speaker" in an hour show which essentially contained a pro war message from all the other guests.

In a recent rebuttal article placed on the Internet, expressing her displeasure with some of the CNN guests and the short time given for her anti-war message, she wrote:

"My absolute favorite guest of the evening was Sen. John Warner, powerful chair of the Senate Armed (Disservices) Committee. Of course, he fell in lockstep behind his Führer (Bush) and praised the speech…. I sat in the Green Room with Sen. Warner's entourage. I wondered (even out loud) what price they have paid for our administration's misdeeds in Iraq. They all looked like happy, well-fed, well-dressed, well-educated, and well-hydrated Americans.…I sincerely doubt if any of them had a loved one ripped from their lives by a car bomb, IED, or bullet in an ambush.

"I spoke with John Warner after his interview and told him unless he was prepared to sacrifice even a good night's sleep over this senseless and criminal war, then he should work on ending it, not prolonging the carnage. He told me that I was "entitled to my opinion," but he would respectfully have to disagree with me. That was awfully Constitutional of him!

"I finally got to speak for my 82 seconds (all the time Larry King Live could spare for the peace message) about how this war is a catastrophe and how we should bring the troops home and quit forcing the

Iraqi people to pay for our government's hubris and quit forcing innocent children to suffer so we can allegedly fight terrorism somewhere besides America. How absolutely racist and immoral is it to take America's battles to another land and make an entire country pay for the crimes of others? To me, this is blatant genocide.

"After my brief advocacy for peace, my position was refuted by another mom whose son was killed in Iraq in 2003, saying she "totally disagrees" with me and "feels sorry" for me.

"Well, you know what? I ache for her blindness and for the millions of ‘sheeple’ who have had the wool pulled over their eyes by this bunch of hypocritical, bad shepherds who are running a disastrous herd over the world. I have distressing news for the ‘Soccer Safety Moms’ and the ‘NASCAR Dads’ who are such ardent supporters of this administration and war:

"Your grandchildren and children who will be entering Kindergarten this fall will be fighting George's endless war if he gets his way and is allowed to continue spreading the cancer of imperialism in the Middle-East….

"Think about it when you tuck your child into bed tonight."


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This needs to end. What other families met with Bush that day? I've read alot of crap over the past month, but this takes the cake.
1 posted on 08/12/2005 4:29:32 PM PDT by Raebie
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To: Raebie
The anti-America crowd is putting on a full court press.

Frankly I'm a lot more interested in Able Danger and the Gorelick wall.
2 posted on 08/12/2005 4:31:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Raebie
uruk.net, presumably the voice of the Uruk-hai
3 posted on 08/12/2005 4:36:00 PM PDT by Da Mav
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To: Raebie

The saddest part of this story of a mentally imbalanced woman who lost her son, is that the media is thriving on the sensation.

Really sad.


4 posted on 08/12/2005 4:37:13 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Raebie

What is really "disgusting" is that people like Cindy and her band of Commie maggots who always whine and scream as they cringe and turn away at the sight of a cross are now exploiting the cross by setting them up along the side of the road from the ranch. Commies REALLY tick me off. Lying hypocrites.


5 posted on 08/12/2005 4:37:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Raebie

This is NOT the way the numerous others families have told their stories of meeting with him, but of course the media gladly overlooks them and most of his efforts to console them. Which he does in private, unlike Clinton with all the cameras there.
How long can they drag this one on, and who in reality is listening?


6 posted on 08/12/2005 4:37:47 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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It would be interesting to contrast her accout with the other families that met with him that day, given she has now taken it upon herself to speak for them as well. She can't get away with this shit for much longer.


7 posted on 08/12/2005 4:39:09 PM PDT by Raebie
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To: Raebie

Cindy Sheehan - the Chandra Levy of 2005. My vacation begins when the media stops salivating over this psycho.


8 posted on 08/12/2005 4:42:41 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals, like puppies, are cute to look at, but shouldn't vote...)
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To: BonnieJ; LUV W; Kathy in Alaska; All

Excuse me Cindy maybe to Dubya you sound weird with California accent so SHUT F*** Up about Dubya Texan accent he is fine with accent to my hearing

People think I have accent over the phone if I talk somebody from back east


9 posted on 08/12/2005 4:43:00 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Raebie
from her home town paper in June 2004

Article Launched: 06/24/2004 06:00:00 AM

From our archive: Bush, Sheehans share moments
By David Henson/Staff Writer
TheReporter.Com

Since learning in April that their son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, had been killed in Iraq, life has been everything but normal for the Sheehan family of Vacaville.

Casey's parents, Cindy and Patrick, as well as their three children, have attended event after event honoring the soldier both locally and abroad, received countless letters of support and fielded questions from reporters across the country.

"That's the way our whole lives have been since April 4," Patrick said. "It's been surreal."

But none of that prepared the family for the message left on their answering machine last week, inviting them to have a face-to-face meeting with President George W. Bush at Fort Lewis near Seattle.

Surreal soon seemed like an understatement, as the Sheehans - one of 17 families who met Thursday with Bush - were whisked in a matter of days to the Army post and given the VIP treatment from the military. But as their meeting with the president approached, the family was faced with a dilemma as to what to say when faced with Casey's commander-in-chief.

"We haven't been happy with the way the war has been handled," Cindy said. "The president has changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached."

The 10 minutes of face time with the president could have given the family a chance to vent their frustrations or ask Bush some of the difficult questions they have been asking themselves, such as whether Casey's sacrifice would make the world a safer place.

But in the end, the family decided against such talk, deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act. In addition, Pat noted that Bush wasn't stumping for votes or trying to gain a political edge for the upcoming election.

"We have a lot of respect for the office of the president, and I have a new respect for him because he was sincere and he didn't have to take the time to meet with us," Pat said.

Sincerity was something Cindy had hoped to find in the meeting. Shortly after Casey died, Bush sent the family a form letter expressing his condolences, and Cindy said she felt it was an impersonal gesture.

"I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith."

The meeting didn't last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son's sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.


While meeting with Bush, as well as Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, was an honor, it was almost a tangent benefit of the trip. The Sheehans said they enjoyed meeting the other families of fallen soldiers, sharing stories, contact information, grief and support.

For some, grief was still visceral and raw, while for others it had melted into the background of their lives, the pain as common as breathing. Cindy said she saw her reflection in the troubled eyes of each.

"It's hard to lose a son," she said. "But we (all) lost a son in the Iraqi war."

The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.

For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.

For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.

"That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together," Cindy said.


David Henson can be reached at dixon@thereporter.com.
10 posted on 08/12/2005 4:45:01 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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Whoa there pardner, this doesn't even hold up to the PRAISES she sang for George Bush after their meeting. She's a filthy liar, which is to say she's a left wing scumbag. She is calling on our troops to mutiny and go to jail. She is an immoral pig who wants hundreds of thousands of sons and daughters slaughtered in Iraq by the terrorists. The war is won and she wants millions of people turned over to the bombers and throat slitters. She knows exactly what she is doing and she doesn't give a damn. Her son served voluntarily and died, not her. She is alive and well and working to send all of us to our graves. I have nothing but contempt for her.


11 posted on 08/12/2005 4:46:18 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Raebie
I feel for her and her loss. But people lose children everyday to less noble causes. People lose children to heroin, meth, gangs, drunk drivers--what have you.

She should honor his bravery and service.

12 posted on 08/12/2005 4:46:41 PM PDT by riri
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Would someone for the love of God please get this sick wretch some mental health counselling???!!!


13 posted on 08/12/2005 4:47:19 PM PDT by MikeA
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To: Raebie

"I just couldn’t believe this was happening."

I still can't believe it.


14 posted on 08/12/2005 4:48:45 PM PDT by kenth
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To: riri

What she lost is her mind when she became a leftist idiot. This has zip to do with her son, she is using his death. Her son never agreed with any of this. She knows that. She doesn't give a damn. This woman is a low life and I'll be damned if I'm going to see a terrorist run Iraq because of this communist phoney.


15 posted on 08/12/2005 4:49:15 PM PDT by Williams
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I emailed this to Drudge. Hopefully he might do something. With these quotes, she has crossed the line of spouting her own venom vs dragging innocent families into her twisted world saying that they agree with her. They deserve the opportunity to call her out on these accusations.


16 posted on 08/12/2005 4:51:46 PM PDT by Raebie
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To: Raebie

Cindy's resemblance to Charles de Gaulle is uncanny. The exact same facial features.


17 posted on 08/12/2005 4:52:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Raebie

Propaganda like Cindy Sheehan spews will result in the death of more good people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Somebody should hand her a list of names every day after today until she shuts her mouth. Murdering scum like Cindy Sheehan and Dick Durban and Maxine Waters should be held accountable.


18 posted on 08/12/2005 4:54:15 PM PDT by Greg41 (With rights goes responsibilities)
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To: Raebie
While you are at it you might want to forward this thread as well: A message to Cindy Sheehan from Iraq the Model Blog


It would be grreat to see this mother get some publicity, too!

19 posted on 08/12/2005 4:56:07 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Raebie

Boy, they are really piling on with this Cindy Sheehan bit...ah, woman.

The left are truly desperate. This is all they got? The press that jump on this are scum...pure scum and I hope they all lose their readers and watchers and go broke forcing them onto the streets to sell crack.


20 posted on 08/12/2005 4:56:13 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I wish those on the Left would just do us all a favor and take themselves out of their misery.)
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