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FBI: Calif. Muslim Cleric Plotted Attacks
AP ^ | 8/9/5 | DAVID KRAVETS

Posted on 08/09/2005 3:03:20 PM PDT by SmithL

SAN FRANCISCO -- A judge refused to set bail Tuesday for a Muslim cleric from Pakistan who faces deportation and has been accused of planning to set up a camp to train followers to kill Americans.

Shabbir Ahmed, 39, is only charged with overstaying his visa while he was heading a mosque in Lodi. The allegation about the terrorist camp came from an FBI agent's testimony during the immigration hearing.

"Do I believe he is planning a terror attack?" FBI agent Gary Schaaf said. "That's some of the information that has been provided to us."

He testified that Ahmed and others were in the fledgling stages of opening a terrorism training camp in Lodi,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: andwhereiscairnow; fbi; jihadinamerica; lodi; shabbirahmed; trop
No Bail?

Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi, again.

1 posted on 08/09/2005 3:03:21 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

What a shock


2 posted on 08/09/2005 3:04:08 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: SmithL
If you are a Muslim cleric from Pakistan, isn't overstaying your visa punishable by death?

Sometimes I wish we could bring back the lynching mobs of the old west ... get a rope.

3 posted on 08/09/2005 3:06:53 PM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: SmithL; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; RonDog; NormsRevenge; Shermy; Travis McGee; Squantos; ...

A judge refused to set bail Tuesday for a Muslim cleric from Pakistan who faces deportation and has been accused of planning to set up a camp to train followers to kill Americans.

Shabbir Ahmed, 39, is only charged with overstaying his visa while he was heading a mosque in Lodi. The allegation about the terrorist camp came from an FBI agent's testimony during the immigration hearing.

"Do I believe he is planning a terror attack?" FBI agent Gary Schaaf said. "That's some of the information that has been provided to us."

He testified that Ahmed and others were in the fledgling stages of opening a terrorism training camp in Lodi>"

I'm sure that the local fishwrap and liberals feel that GW is far more dangerous to America/Americans than this Islamonazi.


4 posted on 08/09/2005 3:06:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: SmithL

Why would a cleric of the Religion of Peace (errr, make that Death) do such a thing?

How out of character.


5 posted on 08/09/2005 3:11:27 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: Grampa Dave
I'm sure that the local fishwrap and liberals feel that GW is far more dangerous to America/Americans than this Islamonazi.

Yeah, let's not offend the "Religion of Pieces", body parts, that means.

6 posted on 08/09/2005 3:13:36 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: SmithL

I say we deport him halfway to Pakistan*.

* Somewhere over the Atlantic or Pacific he is notified that this is his stop, as he is bumrushed out the back ramp of a C-17.


7 posted on 08/09/2005 3:24:55 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: SmithL
Shabbir Ahmed, 39, is only charged with overstaying his visa while he was heading a mosque in Lodi. The allegation about the terrorist camp came from an FBI agent's testimony during the immigration hearing.

So, he's here illegally, don't bother with a trial. Just ship his sorry self to GitMo, or failing that, at least send him home and let Musharff(sic) deal with him.

8 posted on 08/09/2005 3:27:55 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
These clowns are not "clerics." They are terrorists.

To allow people into the country who are sworn to kill Americans is insanity.

All Middle-Eastern looking people who cannot prove that they are longtime citizens of the U. S. should be rounded up, put into concentration camps, and processed for quick deportation. (See Britain)
9 posted on 08/09/2005 4:01:01 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Deportation my ass. How about execution instead?


10 posted on 08/09/2005 4:22:00 PM PDT by HKaddict
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To: Grampa Dave

Watch the 9th short circuit now set them free.


11 posted on 08/09/2005 4:22:54 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: anymouse

"* Somewhere over the Atlantic or Pacific he is notified that this is his stop, as he is bumrushed out the back ramp of a C-17."

That works for me. What also could work is to deport him to Paki and let him feel he is covertly working his way back into the war. Then when he goes to see Bin Laden's pals, we can execute them all at once.


12 posted on 08/09/2005 4:27:55 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: SmithL
I am serious:

Either shoot him now as a spy in time of war
Or, if the pantwetters can't deal with that,

Deport him to Pakistan with the condition that if he returns to the US, it will be shoot on sight. No arrest, no hearing, no nothing.

A universal and cheaper solution is do not allow anyone from a muslim country inside the US for any reason whatsoever.

Part of their plan is to bleed us dry, spending billions of$ on security, proving that we are more PC than anyone else.

13 posted on 08/09/2005 4:30:16 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: SmithL
I just got home from Detroit
Locked the front door...Oh boy!
Since when did Motown turn into West Najaff?
Religion of peace comes in, who knows what they're bringing?

Chorus:Doo, doo, doo, sneakin’ through our back door.

Our cities have these lurkers, dirty nukes in burqas.
Look at all those Mooselimb people walking cross my lawn.
dynamite ayatollahs issue jihad fatwas

Chorus:Doo, doo, doo, sneakin’ through our back door.

Donkeys and the elephants don't seem to understand.
They just close their eyes, bunch of blind ol' fools
Doo, doo doo.
Harsh words of sedition called a "peaceful" religion.

Chorus:Doo, doo, doo, sneakin’ through our back door.

Donkeys and the elephants don't seem to understand.
They just close their eyes, bunch of blind ol' fools
Doo, doo doo.
Fight the war in iraq
leave the back door unlocked.

Chorus:Doo, doo, doo, sneakin’ through our back door.

Screw those troubles in Detroit! locked MY front door, oh boy!
Look at all those mooselimb people walking cross my lawn.
Fight the war in iraq
leave the back door unlocked
doo doo doo sneakin' through our back door!

14 posted on 08/09/2005 5:01:09 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Maybe we DON'T wish to keep our republic, Mr. Franklin!!!)
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