NY: Illegal immigrants, Long Islanders clash (Farmingville)

AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 8/4/05 | Frank Eltman - AP

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THE MMP - FOXY POLITICIANS & THE ILLEGAL ALIENS

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[taxed2death]

"Where do you find your day laborers?"

Newspaper adds, temp services. Of course you might have better luck if you tried to pay them above minimum wage.

[taxed2death]

"Well I don't have any friends that I would insult by offering to hire them to do day labor type work. How much do you pay your friends to clean out rental properties where tenants left old broken furniture, appliances tires, and to help you replace doors, fixtures and appliances?

I would be insulted if one of my "friends" offered to pay me to do that type work."

Now you're an elitist too.
LOL

[ozarkgirl]

And don't fire them if their numbers come back as wrong...noooo, the govt states on their website that you could be sued.

Please post a link to that website because if you employ people as you say you should be familiar with I-9. I would be extremely interested in seeing that website.

[KenmcG414]

These mutts wanted tax-payer assisted housing when they got tossed out of their illegal dwellings...It's time to evict them out of the country. We have to pay for their education, healthcare, welfare etc. I will no longer vote for any politician who does not face the illegal immigration issue head-on.

[Katya]

Let me look for the website, I don't have it saved on my work computer, but I do have it cached in my pings, and I'll post it sometime towards evening. Work is calling.

[Katya]

Okay....not sure where you live, but unless you're looking for retail or restaurant service work where you can probably walk in and ask for an application, you have to look in the paper under ads. Plenty of high schoolers do this, in fact when I did have a retail store and was hiring clerks...people always called me from ads I placed. Now the pay was lousy compared to service work...but like I said, alot of kids and adults don't want to get dirty.

[Happy2BMe]

Mexican immigrant Jose Hernandez, who was evicted when Brookhaven officials raided the overcrowded house in which he was living, brandishes a Mexican flag during a candlelight vigil and march, Thursday in Farmingville, N.Y. The suburban Long Island community is polarized over the recent influx of immigrants, mostly Mexicans like Hernandez, who flock there seeking seasonal work but lack adequate housing. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

[Travis McGee]

Folks, if America does not wake up soon to the danger of a new Civil War resulting from this hostile immivasion, we are finished.

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U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"

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Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

[Happy2BMe]

The Future Looks Ominous for Immigrants

[Katya]

Here are two links from the same site:
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/ssnv.htm#verify
This one is the answer to the question, what should I do if the numbers don't match:
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1418&p_created=1116873411&p_sid=acOkFfMh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPTksMTEzJnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9Mi4xMTMmcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1

[ozarkgirl]

A mismatch is not a basis, in and of itself, for you to take any adverse action against an employee, such as laying off, suspending, firing, or discriminating. Company policy should be applied consistently to all workers.

Any employer that uses the failure of the information to match SSA records to take inappropriate adverse action against a worker may violate State or Federal law.

The information you receive from Social Security Number Verification Service does not make any statement regarding a worker's immigration status.

You know, I really didn't believe you at first but it certainly looks like they are trying to put the fear of employers to release people who don't have the proper documentation.

However, it is against the law and by firing someone who's number did not match, I think in the real world would not get them in trouble as long as it's done properly. According to the law we all must have a verifiable ss or green card to work in the US and if a person doesn't then the employer is breaking the law by hiring them and keeping them if their documentation is false. I'm sure you're familiar with I-9's.

[Katya]

You wouldn't believe how easy it is to get fake docs, particularly in areas where many illegals live. My issue with the soc sec admins position is that they require you to hire the person before you can check. That in itself places the burden entirely on the employer.

Let's be honest, we know perfectly well that the INS is not coming over to pick them up if their numbers come back as false. Even the soc sec admin is stating you should notify them, and wait to see if they can get you the ahem...correct numer, before you do anything.