[bobsunshine]

Also see the article in the NYTimes from: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/04/nyregion/04search.html?pagewanted=print

And post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1456667/posts

Some differences in the articles: In NYNewsday, the wording about the council members asking the officers to note the ethnic identity of people searched while the next sentence says about more Arabs should be searched.

From the NY Times article, the asking for the ethnic identity of people searched was done so they could show that the officers where not profiling. And then about State Assemblyman Dov Hikind, a Brooklyn Democrat, said, "There is a terrorist profile for a potential suicide bomber, and it's not the 75-year-old grandmother with sloping shoulders, who has an oversized tote bag firmly tucked under her arm".

Seems NYNewsday didn't get the entire story, only pieces they wanted.

[Paved Paradise]

Personally, what I'd like to see happen to all these nuts is for them, as well as their immediate family members, be required to ride the subways on a daily basis and so when something happens, they'll be one of the first to reap the benefits of their hard-won efforts!

[finnman69]

I'm calling them the ICLU from now on....

the Islamofasict Civil Liberties Union

[pabianice]

Number of weeks ACLU has remained silent about the latest example of abuse of women in Third World: 2

[Just Lori]

while doing almost nothing to shield the city from terrorism.


"Almost nothing". Isn't that better than "almost SOMEthing" in this case?

The terrorist thugs are cheering and laughing at idiots like this who just make killing a little easier.

[beekay]

if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then you can't profile it as a duck and you can't search it to see if it is in fact a duck. you must let ducks do what ducks do.

[rollo tomasi]

What is unreasonable about searching for explosives of those who choose to ride the subway?

[varyouga]

We need politicians that can ignore all this PC crap and make laws that work.

I look slightly middle-eastern and if it means cops/security look into my bag for 2 seconds I can live with it. It's better than having your head blown off by a "muslim male between the ages of 17 and 40" because the cops can't profile.

I ride the subway every day and see very few people that meet the terrorist profile. If it inconveniences 1 in 100 people it is not a big deal. And if the muslime does not consent to a search they should have someone to follow him.

[varyouga]

An if these lefties think muslimes don't profile they should go to one of the muslime hellholes and see how long they last. A white person walking down the street in Gaza or Somalia can count the seconds on their fingers before they get shot.

When muslimes start accepting other religions in their countries I might accept theirs. When they stop profiling I might think about stopping.

[tfecw]

Hmm I'd rather them (NYC) sued for wasting money , taxpayer time, police resources, and insulting NY's intelligence. If that were illegal they'd be getting sued every day ;)

But judging from the posts here, people actually believe this is a "good" thing to do as opposed to a waste of time and money that only accomplishes to make the none thinkers out there feel like the city is doing something in the WOT.

Actually you know what would help the WOT? If the police went in every one's house and searched for contraband. Yes it's a little inconvenient, but it'd just be a one time thing and they'd get all the terrorist living here in one swoop. Seriously if you can't trade a minor inconvenience while cops and SWAT look through your underwear drawer you are either an apologist or terrorist.

[Rodney King]

The subway searches are stupid and pointless:

They are barely seaching anyone, and if you want you can just walk away before you are searched.

Let's say I am a terrorist, I decide to get on the subway to bomb it. I walk down to the platform. Chances are I walk right on and bomb the thing. Let's say I am stopped... I say "I don't consent to be searched" and I turn around and walk away. I walk 10 blocks to the next station, and repeat the process.

These searches will not, in any way, impede terrorists from their goals.

This is another example of the government trying to make us feel safer while not doing their jobs.

The surest and safest way to protect the "fort" is to keep the invaders outside of its walls. That is why forts have walls.

We should throw out all muslim non-citizens, and bar them all from entry unless they have totally complete background checks, sponsors, etc.

Instead, we let the enemy inside the gates and then harass ourselves.

[Leatherneck_MT]

There's a simple solution to this that seems to escape the powers that be here.

Turn the mass transit system over to private companies. Get the government out of it altogether.

Then the private companies can search anyone and everyone they desire before getting on their "PRIVATE" transit system.

The ACLU or the NYCLU wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

No Government, not alleged infraction of rights.

At least according to all of the business people around here, this would work. Profiling would then be ok too because it's a private company and not publicly owned.

[mudblood]

Why doesn't the aclu sue the airlines for unreasonably searching people's bags?

[kempo]

Folks, how many sub-ways do we have in the red states? I think most of the sub-ways are in the blue states. I'm not planning on going to any blue states anytime soon and I'm never going to ride a sub-way. So I really don't care. Most of the donations to the ACLU comes from people in the blue states. Hell let them straighten things out themselves. When the the police stop having random searches and a bomb goes off in one of the sub-ways ( Its going to happen sooner are later). I promise you things will change. Just watch and see.

[DocRock]

I made this little graphic and hosted this video during the run up to the 2004 Republican Convention. The NYCLU held training seminars for protesters. I made this collage of vids from C-Span. Terrorists learn a lot from groups like the NYCLU.

Click On Image To Watch
Protester Training By
NYCLU Lawyers

Topics covered: Wearing masks, photographing subways, dogs sniffing (she had a Freudian slip and said 'smoking') bags,
and my favorite...THE POLICE CANNOT SEARCH YOUR BAGS IF YOU KNOW YOUR
RIGHTS, EVEN IN THE SUBWAY!
I'm sure terrorist everywhere are going to love these training seminars.

[tomahawk]

Michael Savage is right.

He's not nuts, he's very smart (though intentionally inflammatory so as to be entertaining) and he nailed this one and the ACLU as the 5th column.

[ladyinred]

MORONS. Although I think they should profile like they do in London, at least this is something! It appears the left has learned nothing since 911. If they regain power, we are all in big trouble.

[OKIEDOC]

Did anyone see a photo of these ACLU commies.

What a God awful looking bunch of veggie burger eating butt holes.

To be a leftists wacko does a person have to look like and act like a kook.

[finnigan2]

The ACLU is playing a dangerous game. If many are killed in a terrorist subway attack many will blame them for blocking efforts (no matter how ineffective they might be) to protect the public. After that, to admit that you are a member of the ACLU will be to risk being assaulted or spit upon.

[OKIEDOC]

Just wondering if a requirement for belonging to the ACLU is being as ugly as Darth Vader Ginsberger of the Supreme Court fame.

I believe their membership is based on rejects from local bars.

Or else, could it be that ACLU members are really the original missing link reincarnated.

Somehow the ACLU has to be stopped dead in it's tracts.

I consider anyone belonging to that group of commies to be an enemy of American traditions.