Posted on 08/04/2005 7:34:11 AM PDT by bobsunshine
The New York Civil Liberties Union will file suit against the city Thursday to keep police from searching the bags of passengers entering the subway, organization lawyers said.
The suit, which will be filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, will claim that the two-week old policy violates constitutional guarantees of equal protection and prohibitions against unlawful searches and seizures, while doing almost nothing to shield the city from terrorism.
It argues that the measure also allows the possibility for racial profiling, even though officers are ordered to randomly screen passengers. "While concerns about terrorism of course justify -- indeed, require -- aggressive police tactics, those concerns cannot justify the Police Department's unprecedented policy of subjecting millions of innocent people to suspicionless searches," states the suit, a partial copy of which was provided to Newsday.
Names of the plaintiffs -- subway riders who object to the searches -- were redacted in the copy, but are expected to be released Thursday morning.
A city Law Department spokeswoman said that since officials had not yet received the suit, she could not yet comment. The city is named as a defendant, along with the police department and Police Commissioner Ray Kelly. Thursday, before the suit was released, Kelly said that the searches were "just one more layer, one more tool." "No one thinks that will be the solution, but it does give a potential terrorist something more to think about," he said.
The civil liberties union has criticized the searches as over-reaching since Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced the measure on July 21, after terrorists targeted London's mass transit system for the second time in two weeks. It also calls the stops ineffective because terrorists can walk through entrances where police are not screening.
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Some differences in the articles: In NYNewsday, the wording about the council members asking the officers to note the ethnic identity of people searched while the next sentence says about more Arabs should be searched.
From the NY Times article, the asking for the ethnic identity of people searched was done so they could show that the officers where not profiling. And then about State Assemblyman Dov Hikind, a Brooklyn Democrat, said, "There is a terrorist profile for a potential suicide bomber, and it's not the 75-year-old grandmother with sloping shoulders, who has an oversized tote bag firmly tucked under her arm".
Seems NYNewsday didn't get the entire story, only pieces they wanted.
Personally, what I'd like to see happen to all these nuts is for them, as well as their immediate family members, be required to ride the subways on a daily basis and so when something happens, they'll be one of the first to reap the benefits of their hard-won efforts!
I'm calling them the ICLU from now on....
the Islamofasict Civil Liberties Union
They are jihadist enabling scum. The ACLU turned down
milllions of $ from The Ford Foundation (another
terror enabler) because they wouldn't background
check their employees for terror links.
I like your idea. In times like these, I view such lawsuits as "aiding the enemy."
Personally, I'd like to see you pulled over every day and have a cop try to trick you into consenting to a search of your vehicle.
Subways are not for the elites. So why do they care about those who have to use mass transit. They ride around in limos paid with the money won from litigation of the Boy Scouts and cross removals all over this country. They must be held responsible when the inevitable happens.
while doing almost nothing to shield the city from terrorism.
"Almost nothing". Isn't that better than "almost SOMEthing" in this case?
The terrorist thugs are cheering and laughing at idiots like this who just make killing a little easier.
You are absolutely right about that! They act like they are one with the little guy but it's all smoke and mirrors. Just like Oprah getting all upset over the evil salesclerks who refused to keep the store open late so she could by her Hermes scarf. They don't have cooks and maids to do their work when THEY come home so they like to leave work on time. Duh!
if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then you can't profile it as a duck and you can't search it to see if it is in fact a duck. you must let ducks do what ducks do.
What is unreasonable about searching for explosives of those who choose to ride the subway?
Well a search of a vehicle would be quite time consuming, versus a quick search of a body for a suicide BOMB!!! I don't like this stuff either and wonder where it leads but when I have fellow Freepers sending me private emails of actual xrays of someone they know who has had nails from a nail bomb resting hither-dither inside their freaking pelvis, I guess I can suck it up and let someone wand me or whatever.
Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the
following multiple choice test. The events are actual
Events from history. They actually happened!
Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. a Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and
40
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were
kidnapped and massacred by
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were
kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown
up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked
and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and
thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and
a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was
murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first
time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania
were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild
Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were
used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers
and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US
Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the
passengers.
Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer
Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in
Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and
murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40
Nope, ..I really don't see a pattern here to justify
profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never
offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing
us, airport security screeners will no longer be
allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct
random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids,
airline pilots with proper identification, secret
agents who are members of the President's security
detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and
Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss,
but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40
alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
Let's send this to as many people as we can so that
the Gloria Aldreds and other dunder-headed attorneys
along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common
sense, feel doubly ashamed of themselves -- if they
have any such sense. As the writer of the award
winning story "Forrest Gump" so aptly put it, "Stupid
is as stupid does."
Come on people wake up!!!
Ok, so in a sane world, we would round up and deport all Moslem illegals, and review the visa and naturalization status of the legal ones, and we would have real border security.
In the world of Hom3Lamer "security," we frisk Christians at random, violating the Constitution, thereby reducing the value of the very thing we are defending. Yeah, that'll work.
This is: The policeman doing the searching cannot articulate a reason to suspect you of being a terrorist, or any other kind of criminal for that matter.
19, that is the number
I know Louie Farakkan, NYCLU and Al qaeda can somehow add up to the number 19, have spaceships and make this the white mans fault.
I know it has to add to 19 somehow....
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