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More cracks in the PC Dam: NY officials back terrorist profiling
WashPost - AP ^ | August 3, 2005 | SARA KUGLER

Posted on 08/03/2005 9:49:23 AM PDT by quesney

The same rethink is occuring in the UK. People are getting serious. Cracks in the dam continue to spread. It will eventually burst.

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2 NY Officials Back Terror Check Profiling

By SARA KUGLER

The Associated Press

Wednesday, August 3, 2005; 12:33 AM

NEW YORK -- Middle Easterners should be targeted for searches on city subways, two elected officials said, contending that police have been wasting time with random checks in efforts to prevent terrorism in the transit system.

The city began examining passengers' bags on subways and buses after the second bomb attack in London two weeks ago. Police Commissioner Ray Kelly and Mayor Michael Bloomberg have said several times that officers will not engage in racial profiling.

But over the weekend, state Assemblyman Dov Hikind said police should be focusing on those who fit the "terrorist profile."

"They all look a certain way," said Hikind, a Democrat from Brooklyn. "It's all very nice to be politically correct here, but we're talking about terrorism."

On Tuesday, Republican City Councilman James Oddo said the Sept. 11 World Trade Center attack by Middle Eastern men in hijacked airplanes prompted him to publicly declare his support for Hikind's statements.

"The reality is that there is a group of people who want to kill us and destroy our way of life," he said. "Young Arab fundamentalists are the individuals undertaking these acts of terror, and we should keep those facts prominently in our minds and eyes as we attempt to secure our populace."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gwot; nyc; racialprofiling

1 posted on 08/03/2005 9:49:23 AM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney

Add to this Italy's unexpected outlawing of burkhas, and I think we can see where the momentum is heading.


2 posted on 08/03/2005 9:50:19 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

"Add to this Italy's unexpected outlawing of burkhas, and I think we can see where the momentum is heading."

Yup. Memo to Cair: Get serious or start packing.


3 posted on 08/03/2005 9:51:16 AM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney

WOW...a hint of the aroma of sanity is in the air.


4 posted on 08/03/2005 9:52:01 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: quesney

Sadly, I think we're going to have to lose an entire city to a suitcase nuke before people wake up. I don't think our liberals understand that metropolitan areas (Blue cities) are the primary target (not Red states).


5 posted on 08/03/2005 9:52:15 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: quesney
But over the weekend, state Assemblyman Dov Hikind said police should be focusing on those who fit the "terrorist profile."

That would be Muslims specifically, and middle-eastern Muslims generally.

The problem is, not all of them look like that. Chechnyans look like Europeans. One of the recent London bombers was Jamaican. Jose Padilla is Hispanic, and the people arrested in that cell in Washington state were black Americans.

But most of them are middle-eastern Muslims, mostly males, under age 40. So that's a good place to start.

6 posted on 08/03/2005 9:55:09 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: quesney

Its a start, but what about crosses on city seals, affirmative action, immigration? Whe PC actually goes it will be very good for this country, but it should not only target terrorism.


7 posted on 08/03/2005 9:55:25 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Fenris6

"Sadly, I think we're going to have to lose an entire city to a suitcase nuke before people wake up. I don't think our liberals understand that metropolitan areas (Blue cities) are the primary target (not Red states)."

That may be, but hopefully the foundation is being built so that the casualities wont be as bad as they might otherwise be. Unfortunately, that's the measure of "progress" we're dealing with here. The people resisting this will have blood on their hands, and there wont be any denying it when the next catastrophe happens.


8 posted on 08/03/2005 9:56:15 AM PDT by quesney
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To: Fenris6

The liberals blame the conservatives for all attacks because or our greed for oil and the fact that we attacked the Muslems first in Iraq with our illegal war. (I know thats rediculous but that is what they think) So how are they going to wake up when a city is destroyed? They will still be delusional and blame the wrong party.


9 posted on 08/03/2005 9:56:49 AM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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Let's assume we had a terrorist gang of Black Panthers, or. if you prefer, white separatists, who were going around setting off bombs..tey'd ahd many successful previous attacks..in every case thesuicide bnober had been black, ( or white) The cops would be forced to search both races..


10 posted on 08/03/2005 9:58:58 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: quesney

11 posted on 08/03/2005 10:06:45 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: quesney
Terrorist Profiling is a must. It's not racial like some of these dems claim. It is what it is and it should've been done starting September 12, 2001 (well earlier, but the 11th should've been a wake up call on this issue).
12 posted on 08/03/2005 10:22:40 AM PDT by b4its2late (If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.)
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To: Kenton

Profiling or applying filters to the vast "noise" in order to increase the opportunity to find what you are looking for, is applied in all forms of research. Why not for finding terrorists? I agree that there are a small percentage of terrorists who don't fit the skin color filter, but the majority do. However, it is just one tool or filter of many. If we completing excluded everyone who wasn't a young Arab male, then we would be foolish. However, not spending most of our effort on young Arab males is also foolish.


13 posted on 08/03/2005 10:25:32 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: Fenris6

I don't think our liberals understand that metropolitan areas (Blue cities) are the primary target (not Red states).



They don't seem to understand anything that is obvious.


14 posted on 08/03/2005 10:25:47 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: quesney
Yup. Memo to Cair: Get serious or start packing.
15 posted on 08/03/2005 1:36:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ncountylee

It occurred to the powers that be that victims/relatives of another bombing would sue the for compensation if sensible preventive measures weren't taken.


16 posted on 08/03/2005 1:40:12 PM PDT by hershey
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It occurred to the powers that be that victims/relatives of another bombing would sue the for compensation if sensible preventive measures weren't taken.

Excellent point.

17 posted on 08/03/2005 1:48:14 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Fenris6

" I don't think our liberals understand that metropolitan areas (Blue cities) are the primary target..."

Perhaps the liberals (Leftists) will understand the need for making PC go the way of the Dodo after one of those suitcase jobs wipes out so many of their voters that it takes them out of the Blue State column.


18 posted on 08/03/2005 2:42:05 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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