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To: Erik Latranyi

"...would have insisted that the administrators be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter due to their negligence with the Columbia mission."

Does ANYONE ever "pay" anymore when something goes wrong?

The twin towers are gone and not one head has rolled. Did NO ONE see the looming threat AND WARN OF IT? Well, yeah.... Had'nt we been attacked before? Well, yeah.... Had'nt the towers themselves been attacked before? Well, yeah....

The Challenger blows up in front of the whole world. Was not the very thing warned of? Well, yeah...

The Columbia burns up upon re-entry. The cause is ascertained. Was anyone held responsible for the problem? Was it corrected so that it COULDN'T happen again? Will ANYONES HEAD ROLL?

Welcome to the lying PC world where NOTHING is as important as protecting The Faith.


5 posted on 07/31/2005 5:50:33 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: TalBlack
Does ANYONE ever "pay" anymore when something goes wrong?

I am troubled by this emerging pattern in gov't as well.

With regard to the WTC....the intelligence services should not have bourne the brunt of the firings (even though some were needed).

The real culpability for BOTH the WTC and NASA lie squarely on the shoulders of our elected representatives. They are charged with oversight. They shackled the intelligence services and they created a space program with a culture that leads to repeated mistakes and loss of life.

9 posted on 07/31/2005 6:35:04 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: TalBlack; ncountylee
Does ANYONE ever "pay" anymore when something goes wrong?

I certainly share the frustration but why must someone's head roll? Read the article. What they did was reasonable. It was wrong in some areas but it was reasonable and within normal procedures. Why should someone be sacrificed other than for PR reasons? That is the cowardly way out.

The twin towers are gone and not one head has rolled. Did NO ONE see the looming threat AND WARN OF IT? Well, yeah.... Had'nt we been attacked before? Well, yeah.... Had'nt the towers themselves been attacked before? Well, yeah....

Those whose heads should have rolled were no longer in office. The Clinton administration had put road blocks in place between the FBI and the CIA to prevent cross checking and sharing of infromation. They decided that terrorism was a criminal matter rather than a war declared on us from the outside, as bin Laden most certainly did in 1998. Although the intelligence was there to find and eliminate bin Laden and others Clinton found a way not to do it.

Bush was only in office a short time when 9/11 happened and had been purposely hampered in getting started by the Democrats refusing to release the normal transition money allocated for changes in office until the election was settled, and they drew that out as long as possible. Regardless, I, too, was disappointed that Mueller and Tenet stayed in place but, as I said the work of the FBI and the CIA was sound and the ones who created the problem were gone.

The Challenger blows up in front of the whole world. Was not the very thing warned of? Well, yeah...

As well as I recall, not too well at times, there was a change at NASA after that.

The Columbia burns up upon re-entry. The cause is ascertained. Was anyone held responsible for the problem? Was it corrected so that it COULDN'T happen again? Will ANYONES HEAD ROLL?

As far as heads rolling I don't remember but with something as tricky as space flight you will never be able to assure that nothing will happen. After Challenger we went a long time trying to fix the problem. Read the article to see the process.

Welcome to the lying PC world where NOTHING is as important as protecting The Faith.

I don't understand that but having heads roll just for the sake of it is stupid and cowardly. Want someone's head? How about Sandy Berger's? There is a guy who should be in prison. Want more? How about Bill and Hillary? Each should be in prison on death row.

10 posted on 07/31/2005 6:35:48 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: TalBlack
Did NO ONE see the looming threat AND WARN OF IT?

Let's see: Operation Bojinka, and another plan to crash a plane into the Pope's motorcade in the Philipines, multiple prior SAM attampts and Arrow Air, which was probably a successful shoot-down or sabotage... Yeah, 9/11 was "unimaginable."

Now, instead of security people losing their jobs for incompetence, we get more incompetent "security" people at airports that make us NOT ONE BIT more secure.

11 posted on 07/31/2005 6:42:17 AM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: TalBlack
Yea someone pays, but like all businesses it not the top people. I can see some poor technician telling his family that he was fired from his job while his boss gets a raise. Kind of like the elected officals in Pa., fast eddie cuts benifits for those who need them most, elected offical vote themselves a raise in the middle of the night and fast eddie signs it late on a friday night.
12 posted on 07/31/2005 7:46:25 AM PDT by chiefqc
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