THE TRAGEDY OF ISLAM (Author suspended, CAIR states Islam is not the cause of terror)

JewishWorldReview ^ | July 28, 2005 | Michael Graham

[AliVeritas]

Islam is a terror organization.

For years, I've been trying to give the world's Muslim community the benefit of the doubt, along with the benefit of my typical-American's complete disinterest in their faith. Before 9/11, I knew nothing about Islam except the greeting "asalaam alaikum," taught to me by a Pakistani friend in Chicago.

Immediately after 9/11, I nodded in ignorant agreement as President Bush assured me that "Islam is a religion of peace."

But nearly four years later, nobody can defend that statement. And I mean "nobody."

Certainly not the group of "moderate" Muslim clerics and imams who gathered in London last week to issue a statement on terrorism and their faith. When asked the question "Are suicide bombings always a violation of Islam," they could not answer "Yes. Always." Instead, these "moderate British Muslims" had to answer "It depends."

Precisely what it depends on, news reports did not say. Sadly, given our new knowledge of Islam from the past four years, it probably depends on whether or not you're killing Jews.

That is part of the state of modern Islam.

[AliVeritas]

Some say Graham was over the edge, CAIR's response was more so. JWR and Graham's radio station bowed to them. Please see these links: http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003135.htm http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2005/07/sad-but-true.html Graham e-mails for help, support bloglist: http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/454

[personalaccts]

Since the late 70's whose hijacked airplanes, blown up night clubs, killed jews, held hostages, blew up WTC (1st time), blew up embassy's, blew up USS Cole, blew up WTC (knocked it down), killed 3,000 people, blew up nightclubs (again), more pu-tang bombings (can't face people man to man).

What has America done?
$2 billion to Egypt every year
protected you in Bosnia
kept Arafat (terrosist) in power
saved Kuwait
saved Saudia Arabia
freed Afg. from the taliban
freed Iraq

[B.O. Plenty]

bump

[lionheart 247365]

I've found the only moderate muslims seem to be dead muslims . There is absolutely no REAL vocal opposition to muslim terrorism . Just remember you are an infidel and that will NEVER change , And by all means don't buy a used camel from CAIR .

[Northern Alliance]

I think this is a duplicate thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1452257/posts

[Northern Alliance]

I think this is a duplicate thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1452257/posts

[Paradox]

When asked the question "Are suicide bombings always a violation of Islam," they could not answer "Yes. Always." Instead, these "moderate British Muslims" had to answer "It depends."

I think suicide bombings are legitimate, if those bombers are going against real military targets. Its when they go into crowded busses and masses of people where it is dead wrong.

[lionheart 247365]

They are PU$$Ys , that's why they don't fight out in the open and don uniforms .

[upchuck]

From the article:

If the Boy Scouts of America had 1,000 scout troops, and 10 of them practiced suicide bombings, then the BSA would be considered a terrorist organization. If the BSA refused to kick out those 10 troops, that would make the case even stronger. If people defending terror repeatedly turned to the Boy Scout handbook and found language that justified and defended murder - and the scoutmasters in charge simply said "Could be" - the Boy Scouts would have driven out of America long ago.

With all due respect to the BSA, one of the finest organizations around, the analogy is spot on.

You go Michael!

[Samurai_Jack]

I think that Graham should do an internet radio show... i'd pay to hear that.

[Coldwater Creek]

This terror against the US has been going on a lot longer than the seventies. A lot the public just don't know about.

[randita]

They are PU$$Ys , that's why they don't fight out in the open and don uniforms .

Our special forces don't always fight in the open and don uniforms and I'd hardly call them the P word.

[bronxboy]

Jihadists are indeed cowards. Out guys don't blow up women and children intentionally...Cowardly jihadist target woman and children deliberately.

[jammer]

I disagree wholeheartedly. I would hate to underestimate the enemy. With the resources they have available they do a lot of damage with their strategy--got rid of Spain, sporadic paralysis of Britain, etc.

I find it ironic that defense of Islam implies that to follow the religion, one must be a jihadist, and that Muslims who are not jihadists are, essentially, back-sliders. There's just no other way to reconcile the manifest, clear, unmistakable words of the Koran with the apologetics of their public relations.

Actually, there might be one other way: someone may have read the Aeneid and learned about Trojan Horses. THAT's the scary part.

[ncountylee]

So moderate Islamists believe...Suicide bombings are not always a violation of Islam? Sounds extremist to me!

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

THIS IS NOT FROM AL-QAEDA!

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF WHAT ALL MUSLIMS, INCLUDING SO-CALLED MODERATES, SIGN UP FOR WHEN THEY SAY THE BISMALLAH, "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET"!

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

© Religion of Peace

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

[jordan8]

But nearly four years later, nobody can defend that statement. And I mean "nobody."

I'll Bet GWB still defends it, and so do most of our political "leaders." They don't believe it, of course, what they are actually defending is multiculturalism, the continued invasion and occupation of the West, and One-Worldism .

He remembers, I'm sure, that at a time when Western, Christian civilization was on the verge of collapse, the Muslim world was a bastion of rationalism and tolerance. That was a great moment in the history of Islam, a moment that helped save the West.

Utter nonsense.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

I saw the original version of this "movie." It was America in the 1950s.

* Soviet Communists wanted peace. Peace was possible, communism was just another system of economics and better than pure ruthless, greedy capitalism; Americans could learn from that system and benefit from both systems.

* McCarthyism (a word invented by CP/USA if I'm not mistaken) was standing in the way of peace.

* anti-Communists were playing into the hands of Soviet Communist hard-liners and increasing the risks of war.

* The Soviet moderates were with us but we had to prove to them that we were not warmongers.

* Stop the hateful rhetoric.

Such was some of the wisdom of our enlightened class of that era.

Well the majority of the "greatest generation" knew the shiny icky stuff of the enlightened class was smelly, steaming B.S.

Mohammed or Marx. Does it really matter to the victims?

Any radio station that bows to radical Muslims needs to go back to top 40. The station is worthless to America.

[rageaholic]

Jihad is a permanent state. No amount of concessions to islam will stop the aggression, its part and parcel of their satanic death cult.

[rageaholic]

Don't forget to add that Mohammad himself was a slave owner, and slavery is legal in islam.

Why disaffected blacks turn to islam is as nutty as strapping a bomb on your arse.