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Ranger Shoots Club-Wielding Camper to Death After Call About Domestic Disturbance
Associated Press ^
| Jul 28, 2005
| Jeff Barnard
Posted on 07/28/2005 7:50:13 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: mc6809e
Tazer. Prolly not. If this guy was hopped up enough to ignore the face full of pepper spray they gave him first, the tazer would probably have had no effect on him.
81
posted on
07/29/2005 8:08:41 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Sergio
pulling the trigger the second time, just shows a certain sincerity on your part. LOL!
82
posted on
07/29/2005 8:09:31 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
If it was a bear out of control, I bet they would have used bear strength pepper spray. It's OK to shoot the human who doesn't belong in a park. Actually, no -- it's SOP to shoot any bear who acts like that around people.
83
posted on
07/29/2005 8:12:36 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Hank Rearden
However, with a club, there's a good chance of dodging or deflecting a swing. And if the odds are not with you that day? If the club swing knocks you silly?
Then, the crazed idiot grabs the ranger's gun, shoots the family, the ranger, and whoever else is around until the gun is unloaded.
What if the ranger shoots at the legs? What if the bullet misses the leg and goes through the opening between the legs? What if that bullet then sails through the leg opening and kills the young child in the camping trailer?
Remind me to never hire you as my bodyguard.
84
posted on
07/29/2005 8:13:03 AM PDT
by
Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
(Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
To: AppyPappy
Not a guy wielding a club who attacks two cops with guns.After being hit with pepper spray. The guy in the next trailer describes him as completely out of control. I'm guessing the autopsy shows he was on something.
85
posted on
07/29/2005 8:16:41 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: robertpaulsen
You making fun of Tuco, blondie...??!!!!!!!
86
posted on
07/29/2005 8:17:52 AM PDT
by
PoorMuttly
(just saying "Sorry" in advance)
To: John Robertson
Okay, the book smart comment is gatuitous.
as for the quotes - that's why they are single quotes - not double. but hey - whatever works for you.
Like I said - if you want to shoot to wound - then more power to you, and good luck with that.
87
posted on
07/29/2005 8:18:45 AM PDT
by
phasma proeliator
(It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
To: John Robertson
We weren't on the scene. Two rangers with pepper spray decided they couldn't control the situation and chose to use lethal force.
Lesson learned here is, don't attack armed LEO with a club while high.
88
posted on
07/29/2005 8:20:09 AM PDT
by
xsrdx
(Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
To: csvset
Your post was cryptic. Are you saying the rangers know how to handcuff?
As I said, I come from a cop family, so I do know what techniques are involved even if I have never applied tham.
89
posted on
07/29/2005 8:23:28 AM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
To: phasma proeliator
No harm, either way.
Have a great day.
To: Pharmboy
As I said, I come from a cop family, Does that make you an expert?
The answer to that question is, no.
That wasn't too cryptic for you, was it?
91
posted on
07/29/2005 9:12:28 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Please try to pay attention; I never said anything about shooting at the guy's legs.
92
posted on
07/29/2005 9:27:30 AM PDT
by
Hank Rearden
(Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
To: Hank Rearden
I didn't say you said that. I used shooting at the legs as an example of attempting to stop somebody without shooting that could kill.
A "shoulder shot" could become a shot through the heart by a combination of poor shot and body movement.
It is too bad this person died. Sometimes, mentally unstable people do weird things, possibly off bipolar/schizo medicine or the person was using narcotics. Obviously, it would have been better if the person was stopped and too bad he had to die.
That said, I don't fault the rangers. Even mentally unstable people know what the word STOP means coming from a person wearing a uniform. The rangers did their job.
93
posted on
07/29/2005 9:43:11 AM PDT
by
Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
(Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
To: nhoward14
You're right.
Warning shots only work in the movies. When a crazed and potentially high lunatic starts coming at you and threatening to kill you, you shoot the body. You may not have another chance to put them down.
94
posted on
07/29/2005 9:48:51 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
To: Pharmboy
95
posted on
07/29/2005 11:39:44 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: csvset
I still don't know what your point was or is and what's more, could not care less. Learn some manners--it might do you some good.
96
posted on
07/29/2005 12:14:08 PM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
To: Pharmboy
A warning shot might have done the trick...or a shot in the leg. If a snoot full of pepper spray had no effect, I doubt a loud noise (warning shot) would have.
Shooting his legs out from under him is also not a good idea.
You shoot to stop, not to wound.
97
posted on
07/29/2005 12:42:41 PM PDT
by
TC Rider
(The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
To: TC Rider
98
posted on
07/29/2005 1:13:59 PM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
To: Pharmboy
2 rangers one bad guy - take the club away from the bad guy and kick his a$$ all the way to the jail.
99
posted on
07/29/2005 1:24:02 PM PDT
by
sandydipper
(Less government is best government!)
To: sandydipper
Yep...that's my take on this. But an awful lotta Freepers wanted to shoot this guy where he stood. Go figure...
100
posted on
07/29/2005 4:32:09 PM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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