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Case of C.I.A. Officer's Leaked Identity Takes New Turn
NY Times ^ | July 28, 2005 | DOUGLAS JEHL

Posted on 07/27/2005 9:26:15 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide

In the same week in July 2003 in which Bush administration officials told a syndicated columnist and a Time magazine reporter that a C.I.A. officer had initiated her husband's mission to Niger, an administration official provided a Washington Post reporter with a similar account.

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Mr. Pincus has not identified his source to the public. But a review of Mr. Pincus's own accounts and those of other people with detailed knowledge of the case strongly suggest that his source was neither Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's top political adviser, nor I. Lewis Libby, the chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, and was in fact a third administration official whose identity has not yet been publicly disclosed.

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I've always wondered does "administration official" conclusively mean someone who works in the White House? Could "admininstration official" mean "CIA official"? After all, the CIA is in the executive branch of government. I can't believe that the NY Times would muddy the waters with these terms, but it is frustratingly difficult to interpret the terms the MSM uses when describing this case.
1 posted on 07/27/2005 9:26:15 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: SolidSupplySide

I'm betting it came from the Colin Powell Foggy Bottom brigades.


2 posted on 07/27/2005 9:29:11 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: SolidSupplySide
I can't believe that the NY Times would muddy the waters with these terms

LOL.

3 posted on 07/27/2005 9:30:13 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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I've always wondered does "administration official" conclusively mean someone who works in the White House? Could "admininstration official" mean "CIA official"?

Yes. For example, George Tenet was then an "administration offical." Consider that a hint.

4 posted on 07/27/2005 9:32:31 PM PDT by kesg
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I've always wondered does "administration official" conclusively mean someone who works in the White House?

About as specific, meaningful, and descriptive as "sources say"........... it means nearly nothing.

5 posted on 07/27/2005 9:32:32 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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THere is a nice little press war going on between the NYTIMES and Washington Post, they have been picking apart each others stories for weeks.


6 posted on 07/27/2005 9:33:55 PM PDT by Pikamax
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I'm betting it came from the Colin Powell Foggy Bottom brigades.

I can't rule this out. But according to the Vanity Fair article, Novak apparently told Wilson that his original source was in the CIA.

7 posted on 07/27/2005 9:33:55 PM PDT by kesg
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"[Pincus] wrote in Nieman Reports that he did not believe the person who spoke to him was committing a criminal act, but only practicing damage control by trying to get him to write about Mr. Wilson."


Of course, Pink-us did not reveal to the reading public that he and his wife are in bed with the Wilsons and the whole campaign to damage the Bush administration, either. He claims he did not believe Valerie Plame had any role in sending her husband on the bogus trip to Niger, but did Pink-us ever show any minimal journalistic integrity and competence in revealing his own personal biases and relationships which color his reporting with the sewage of Democratic Party talking points???


8 posted on 07/27/2005 9:34:38 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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I'm betting it came from the Colin Powell Foggy Bottom brigades.

Good call. "Administration official" could certainly include the State Dept. Specifically, Colin Powell would certainly qualify as an "administration official". So, likely, would other State Department officials. And the State Department could use a good housecleaning just like the CIA. Too many Foggy Bottom residents are willing to put US interests behind State Department interests.

But it is interesting that the NY Times admits that Fitzerald is looking at someone other than Rove or Libby. This is the first time the MSM has admitted this.

I also like how the NY Times is doing investigative reporting on the Washington Post. We've seen fissures in Big Labor. Now we see fissures in Big Media. That Karl Rove is a genious. :)

9 posted on 07/27/2005 9:35:22 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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Interesting enough by why would Pincus have any credibility in this instance?
10 posted on 07/27/2005 9:40:28 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: SolidSupplySide
Who else in this administration uttered those 5 damning words: "Yea, I heard that too." when asked if they knew Joe Wilson's wife (who was a super secret clandestine operative for the CIA under the heretofore undisclosed name of Valerie Plame) recommended her husband be sent on the ultra secret fact finding mission to deepest, darkest Niger Africa.

The suspense is killing me. This just has to be worse than all of the other Bush Administration non-scandals put together.

11 posted on 07/27/2005 9:42:26 PM PDT by eggman (Democrat party - The black hole of liberalism from which no rational thought can escape.)
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Richard Armitage may be a good candidate - he is known to have circulated the State Dept. memo about the Niger uranium matter that had the press all atwitter recently because it was said to have been seen on Air Force One. Powell, Armitage, and Tenet seem to be the best candidates, although there might be others we don't even know about. If the key source were Rove then Novack couldn't possibly have said it was "no partisan gunslinger" - I think that phrase was a clear indication that someone who was NOT a political adviser to Bush or Cheney was involved........


12 posted on 07/27/2005 9:43:13 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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Interesting enough by why would Pincus have any credibility in this instance?

Fair enough. Pincus is certainly conflicted due to his dual roles as reporter and witness in this case. But I've got to assume that anything he said before the grand jury is truthful. His reporting may be suspect, but if we get information about his grand jury testimony, that may be a little more credible.

13 posted on 07/27/2005 9:44:27 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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From Macsmind blog (note: "office" = CIA) -

"I was on the phone to the "office" today, thankfullly, there are still good people there who are willing to speak about this issue (Not everyone at the office was against the war). Suffice to say that there is more to come, and if I were Joe and Valerie, I'd put the champaign away for now."

http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/07/why-valerie-is-at-heart-of-plame-game.html


14 posted on 07/27/2005 9:45:48 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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"I've always wondered does "administration official" conclusively mean someone who works in the White House?"

I always thought it meant anyone in the current Admin. Lately, especially knowing how the MSM spins things and doesn't always tell the full truth, I've been wondering if it could mean a previous Admin official - - if that's the case, there's a whole barrel-full that could have leaked.


15 posted on 07/27/2005 9:47:49 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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But it is interesting that the NY Times admits that Fitzerald is looking at someone other than Rove or Libby. This is the first time the MSM has admitted this.

???
The scumbag NY Times has ordered an employee to jail rather than let her exonerate Rove by revealing her source ("someone other than Rove or Libby") to the grand jury. I would say there was really nothing for the scumbag NY Times to admit except reality itself.

16 posted on 07/27/2005 9:48:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Sam Hill; MJY1288; Mo1; nopardons; Mad Mammoth; mystery-ak

Pingy Dingy!


17 posted on 07/27/2005 9:53:29 PM PDT by STARWISE (You get the gov't you deserve. Call your Congress Critters OFTEN - 877-762-8762)
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To: eggman

CIA Secret Agent Valerie Plame, pictured above with husband Joseph Wilson, at the big 'Vanity Fair' bash to honor the Tribeca Film Festival. Other guests included: Robert DeNiro, Nicole Kidman, Barry Diller, Willem Dafoe, John McEnroe, David Bowie, Sean "P. Diddy" Combs and many others.
18 posted on 07/27/2005 9:54:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Technically, anybody that works for the government that is controlled by an appointed official is "an Administration Official." So, Valeirie Plame (Wilson) worked at the CIA under Tenet so she could be classified as an "Administration Official."beacuse she as an employee is in fact an agent for that appointed person. Heck the local National Park Ranger and IRS window Clerk could be considered "an Administration official" too.

The questions of whom Judith Miller is sitting jail for needs an answer from the NY Slimes more the stupid speculation on whom the other newspaper's and magazine's reporters got their info from. Which liberal/Rat are they covering up for?
19 posted on 07/27/2005 9:56:05 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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Heck the local National Park Ranger and IRS window Clerk could be considered "an Administration official" too.

That was the point I was trying to make. "Administrative" could mean "Executive". Broadly defined, "administrative" could include anyone in the executive branch of government. Therefore, in the broadest sense, your National Park Ranger and IRS window clerk could be "administrative officials" since they work in the executive branch.

"Congressional officials" or "Judicial officials" would not be "Administration officials" since they are not in the executive branch and have different roles from "administering" or "executing" or "enforcing" the laws.

20 posted on 07/27/2005 10:01:17 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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