[editor-surveyor]

"our politicians will never, left to their own devices, put our state government on a permanent diet. So we must do it for them."

Californians, are we going to do this? Hint: You will have to get out of bed to do it.

[kingu]

Californians, are we going to do this? Hint: You will have to get out of bed to do it.

To effect real reform you need to...

1) Thrash and burn most of the courts. Any voter imitative that puts the state on a diet will be ruled unconstitutional (even if it is a constitutional amendment) because (insert someone)'s rights have been infringed.

2) Throw out most of the legislature. Keep a few good guys around to teach folks how to run the government.

3) Cut Sacramento down to 3 months a year - these long legislative sessions give them too much time to figure out how to spend more of our money.

4) Make all budgets last ten years - yeah, you'll only get this through once, but this alone will cut the state deficit into pieces.

[paul51]

Californians, are we going to do this? Hint: You will have to get out of bed to do it

What's your game plan? March on the state capitol, send all the state politicians home, close the state courts and occupy the capitol until all new elections can be organized and judges put on the bench? I'm with you. Anything short of that is a waste of time and energy.

[A CA Guy]

Hint, we need to get more petitions signed for 2006.

This time without any F'd up wrong words please.

[lainie]

Californians, are we going to do this? Hint: You will have to get out of bed to do it.

But, and do what? There are a certain percentage of people here who still refuse to recognize Schwarzenegger for what he is. They're mad at those who were right about him, but not much else. The time to get off our asses, when real change could have been affected, was two years ago. Now that has passed, and I think it's too early for the next opportunity.